Newbie with my first project

Post by **Brian** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:21 am

Tiger, Be very careful! Splitting on a trolley jack is the most dangerous way to do it especially with a live clutch. You will need to do a lot of riggling to get her back together and it is easy to overturn the jack and drop the engine.

I take it by lugs you mean the lock tabs. You can use Loctite instead.

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:08 pm

Thanks for the words of caution Brian i was Very careful and used plenty of axle so it wouldn't fall far, it was the locating stud out of the flywheel i needed but i managed to get the old one out.
Clutch plates and bearing turned up at 15.30 and just finished putting her together now. Lining up the clutches was a pig

Gave the engine a coat of paint while i waited for the parts to turn up hopefully finish putting her back together tomorrow and start her up. Fingers crossed

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:11 am

looks like u've done a great job there Tiger. What you going to do with the other engine ? Rebuild it ? I'd almost like to get my hands on a knackered engine and give it a go rebuilding it. Trouble is we use our tractor quite a bit right now so I can't really do that.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:21 am

Tiger wrote:

Does anybody know what the pipe is coming out of the rocker cover, it goes to the air filter and my new engine does not have this

Tiger,
That's your breather tube, or some people call it a "blow by" tube, anyway you call it this lets your engine breathe, you will need to put that back on.

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:12 am

Hi Ian thanks for the comments, i will probably keep the old engine and rebuild it some time.

Thanks Mark i will re tap the valve and re plumb it, Just one question how did this engine manage without the breather. There is a 2" elbow pipe coming out from behind the pump that is unaccounted for at the moment. (probably answered my own question)
Chris

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:14 am

Ian P.s there is a knackered engine on ebay at the min £53 at the min
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fordson-super-maj ... 500wt_1182

EddieJ · Post by **EddieJ** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 9:30 am

Tiger wrote:Ian P.s there is a knackered engine on ebay at the min £53 at the min
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fordson-super-maj ... 500wt_1182

Thats a 3 pot dexta unit, looks a bargain if all the accessories funtion too, a starter motor, pto shaft and hydraulic pump. A funtioning hyd pump is worth £50 on its own.

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:02 pm

Tried bleeding her but the pumps seized and not getting diesel to the injectors so put the one of my old engine and she fired up on the third turn and purrs like a kitten. I'am over the moon

The 2 inch elbow coming out from behind the pump i put a hose on it and
used it as a breather instead of cutting into the rocker cover. It seems to work can anybody think of any probs

Just a few leaks to tend to thermostat, filters and maybe a bit more paint. I have really enjoyed doing this, it's great to work on something where you can see everything and actually get to it. Thanks guys for all your help couldn't of done it without you. Will post some more pics when she's all back together.

P.S Should the decompression lever be up or down, it does not seem to make any difference.

Cheers Chris

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:56 pm

Hi I have noticed she is weeping a bit from the pto Shaft. Is this a big job . I have done a quick search on hear but not much luck. Thanks

henk · Post by **henk** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:16 pm

Tiger,

You will have to drain the rear end.
Then unscrew the four bolts and it will come out. Replace the seal between the flange and the rear end and replace the seal around the shaft. Don't know if that's still available.

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:57 pm

Tiger wrote:Hi I have noticed she is weeping a bit from the pto Shaft. Is this a big job . I have done a quick search on hear but not much luck. Thanks

I did this job a while ago. Park it at a steep angle then you wont need to drain any fluid. Undo the 4 bolts. If you can't pull it out, give it a hit with a hammer on the top to twist it, then you can knock it out from the bottom. I used some wood so I wasn't beating the metal directly. Should come out easy then. Pull the entire shaft out.

I remember we gave the gear on the shaft a few knocks with a lump hammer to knock it back. It does move, just need to hit it hard. There there are 1 or 2 circlips. These are a bit a pain in the ass to get off. I think we used 2 screw drivers to drive them off, not ideal but worked fine. The seal itself was a c***t to get out. I think we mostly beat and assaulted it until it broke apart. Putting the new one in was easy, just knock it in. Then do the reverse to get it back together. Unless you have a special tool to get the circlips on and off, you should be able to manage it to with a few screw drivers with the help from a friend.

Then push the shaft back in the tractor. You'll find it'll hit something. You'll probably panic for a bit realising you can't get it back in. But what you want to do is put a bit of weight on the end of the PTO shaft to lift the other end up inside of the tractor. It'll slot in then. Bolts back together and ure done ;p

One last thing, there is supposed to be a gasket on the back, but on our tractor there was none. It didn't bother making one up because I didn't realise there was supposed to be one. But it doesn't leak anyway.

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:05 pm

Thanks Guys

Ian wrote:
Tiger wrote:Hi I have noticed she is weeping a bit from the pto Shaft. Is this a big job . I have done a quick search on hear but not much luck. Thanks
I did this job a while ago. Park it at a steep angle then you wont need to drain any fluid. Undo the 4 bolts. If you can't pull it out, give it a hit with a hammer on the top to twist it, then you can knock it out from the bottom. I used some wood so I wasn't beating the metal directly. Should come out easy then. Pull the entire shaft out.

I remember we gave the gear on the shaft a few knocks with a lump hammer to knock it back. It does move, just need to hit it hard. There there are 1 or 2 circlips. These are a bit a pain in the ass to get off. I think we used 2 screw drivers to drive them off, not ideal but worked fine. The seal itself was a c***t to get out. I think we mostly beat and assaulted it until it broke apart. Putting the new one in was easy, just knock it in. Then do the reverse to get it back together. Unless you have a special tool to get the circlips on and off, you should be able to manage it to with a few screw drivers with the help from a friend.

Then push the shaft back in the tractor. You'll find it'll hit something. You'll probably panic for a bit realising you can't get it back in. But what you want to do is put a bit of weight on the end of the PTO shaft to lift the other end up inside of the tractor. It'll slot in then. Bolts back together and ure done ;p

One last thing, there is supposed to be a gasket on the back, but on our tractor there was none. It didn't bother making one up because I didn't realise there was supposed to be one. But it doesn't leak anyway.

Sounds like my kind of language My list of jobs is getting bigger

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:16 pm

Tiger wrote:Thanks for the words of caution Brian i was Very careful and used plenty of axle so it wouldn't fall far

Tiger, what do you mean by this statement?

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:23 pm

I used large axle stands and pieces of wood about half an inch below the engine so if it slipped it would only fall half an inch. Not the best plan in the world but all i had

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:04 pm

Been let down by Agriline there very busy

just waiting for filters thermostat and gasket then she's back to work

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:11 pm

im still waiting for parts from agriline
been waiting all week

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:21 pm

Please don't shout at me for the lights, but i need them and can't afford original.

Parts finally turned up at 16.00 today so she should be all finished tomorrow and loader back on.

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:30 pm

Thanks for all your help, she's all up and running and loader back on. Here's a pic before i scratched all the paint

putting the loader back on all on my own

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:25 pm

Looks like you've done a great job there. Nice tinwork on the tractor too. Ours really needs a new front, as the front mostly got destroyed when it hit a fence post

also having no brakes didn't help.

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:01 pm

Ian wrote:Looks like you've done a great job there. Nice tinwork on the tractor too. Ours really needs a new front, as the front mostly got destroyed when it hit a fence post also having no brakes didn't help.

Thanks Ian. Thats why i put the bumper on i dropped a big bail of hay and it hit the front. Well she's back to work and this is the first photo of her running without smoke bellowing out of the exhaust

henk · Post by **henk** » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:12 pm

A well done job Tiger.
Now you have to change: another unfinsihed job in :another finished job

Dandy Dave · Post by **Dandy Dave** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:07 pm

A working Fordson is a Happy Fordson

And the Farmer, He is a happy Chap also when his Fordson works well.

As we say back here, Swweeeettt Ride Man.

Dandy Dave!