Petrol Dexta Question.

Post by **Brian** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:36 pm

All the engines Ben listed were heroic failures. Not so the petrol Dexta.

Rob, No.

Interesting fact this.

Barry mailed me with the details, I have checked it and am really surprised. It shows how little we knew about Fordson tractors.

Mike Kuscher · Post by **Mike Kuscher** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:52 pm

Pure guesses, based on previous answers.

Either...

Ford(son) bought the design rights as a basis for the Dexta?

or

Turner arranged to licence (part of?) the Dexta design for a 'revamped' Yeoman just before they went bust?

Mike

P.S.
Another question for you all.

Why do I call Brian my 'friend' when he keeps setting quizzes that are difficult and obscure to answer?

The Swanndri Guy · Post by **The Swanndri Guy** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:55 pm

So considering the basic design of the Dexta, excluding engines were vaguely derived/modified Ford 9N, so it must be something to do with engine design?Also nothing wrong with quizzes or dancing banana's.

Still confused, can't wait to find out the correct answer,TSG.

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:25 pm

Seeing as it's a petrol Dexta question, it's to do with the engine

Post by **Brian** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:04 am

Sorry chaps,

You keep going all around the answer, it is nothing to do with the design or the engine as such.

Mike has to re-think his answers. Change them round a bit.

Ooops. That might be too much of a clue.

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:12 pm

Brian used to sell both the Yeoman and the Dexta

Post by **Brian** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:24 pm

True but no cigar Ben.

Supertractorman · Post by **Supertractorman** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:36 pm

The same drawbar pin will fit both !

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Were both engines manufactured under licence in the same factory with same BHP.

David

Post by **Brian** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 11:01 pm

No and No David.

The tractors have one thing in common and that is not visible, even if they both were stripped out to their smallest components and laid side by side.

Yet they have the strongest possible link.

I am not including things like bearings, tyres, seats, steering wheels and exhaust pipes which were possibly made by the same outside suppliers like Burgess, Dunlop, Goodyear, Firestone and Sanky.

The link is not there for the diesel Dexta or Super Dexta.

Emiel · Post by **Emiel** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:34 am

May be the wheelbase?

Post by **Brian** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:42 pm

No Emiel.

Constant · Post by **Constant** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:20 pm

Bore or stroke, or bore and stroke??

Post by **Brian** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:07 pm

No Constant.

I will admit that it is something that has only just come to light and it seems, few people have heard of it.

The Swanndri Guy · Post by **The Swanndri Guy** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:19 pm

Brian ,was a Yeoman designed or built petrol engine considered for the Dexta, then at the 11th hour Fordson decided to use the Standard engine insteaded??

TSG.

Post by **Brian** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:04 am

TSG, No.

Post by **Brian** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:13 pm

OK. It has been a week and although there have been some interesting answers, none have been correct. I must admit I would never have known this until Barry M brought it to my attention.

As you may know, Ford Motor Company kept hundreds of small and smaller businesses in work. J.J.Wright and Sons (Engineering) machined all the front hubs and disc brake units for the Ford Cortina. We also sub-contracted work out to a number of small machine shops all over Norfolk,sometimes situated in garden sheds. We did, however keep the "Blue Streak" missile bits in house.

Fords had their work cut out at Dagenham, building Cars, Vans, Majors and Dextas on the same site and, in the 1960's, they were leading the market in all areas. Some developments were done elsewhere, Roadless developed the 4WD Dexta and Super Dexta, County did the Highway and Industrial versions and ...

Turner Engineering Company of Wolverhampton developed and built the Petrol Dexta for Ford.

So the petrol Dexta is really a Turner! And was built at Wolverhampton.

Turner built cars and trucks in the 1920's and were a family owned company right up to the 1990's. They made parts and gearboxes for Leyland trucks and tractors including parts for the Leyland Tractor synchromesh gearboxes.

Google Turner Engineering, Wolverhampton. It will take you to a very interesting web site that includes potted histories of sweets and Guy lorries.

henk · Post by **henk** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:48 pm

Live is full of surprises Brian,

I hope you have recover your breath by now.
Interesting story.

roromac · Post by **roromac** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:36 pm

Does that mean, Brian, that Turner Engineering Company of Wolverhampton will have all the records which you are attempting to compile?
Rob

Post by **Brian** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:22 pm

That is certainly going to be an area to check. They have been taken over now though and I will bet that records have been destroyed.

If you google Wolverhampton History you will find a very interesting web site on old companies in that area.