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Does anyone know if a front loader that fits a Ford 3000 ( also typed a Super Dexta in UK) will fit the older Super Dexta it replaced?

edmundld wrote:Does anyone know if a front loader that fits a Ford 3000 ( also typed a Super Dexta in UK) will fit the older Super Dexta it replaced?

The arms are the same but don't believe the tractor frame is.

The Horndraulic loader for a Ford 2000/3000 is the 520 loader, whereas for a Dexta it is 502.

I have a spare Dexta frame if you're interested.

to Bensdexta,

Thanks for the offer, might take you up on it when find loader to suit.

I am trying to find out how eo fit a Horn draulic to my Dexta.
Its not a model; 500, 501, 502, or 506.
It looks like an earler version, made with curved pipe with oxy cut flanges.
I cannot work out how to mount it to the tractor chassis.
can anybody help please?
With images??

I fear you might struggle with that, unless you make your own frame.

The later Horndraulic loader that most Dextas had, bolts at the front to the clutch bell housing, and at the rear to brackets under the rear axle.

I agree with Ben

I looked at a loader from a 3000 (advertised as from a Super Dexta) with a view to putting it on to my 1963 Super Dexta but the fitting points are quite different, the Dextas have an adaptor plate between engine and bell housing, this sticks out at the bottom and has holes in the lower edge. I believe the loader frame attaches here and as |Ben says at the back axle, presumably using the mud guard bolts.

Regards

Ian

There's no additional adapter plate between engine and bell housing. The bell housing flange projects out a little with the loader bracket holes you describe. Yes the rear loader brackets bolt under the mudguard bolts.

The loader I am looking at mounts about the front axle some how.
It is different from the type which has a T shaped fixing frame from the rear axle extending forwards.
It has something generally flat or a piece of heavy angle iron, sitting near the front axle extending rearwards to the bell housing face perhaps.

I can make a new frame, I just need pictures to show how its been done before to make it easier.

Take a look at a MIL loader for a Dexta. That fixes to the front axle support

http://www.fordsontractorpages.nl/phpbb ... hp?p=10244

I saw that , but its not clear as to where the connection to the tractor is.
Are more photos possible?

Pretty certain that the front loader mounting plate bolts onto the underside of the front axle carrier. Nowhere else it can go, as clearly it can't attach to the front axle itself.

This may give you some ideas for making your frame tho my Dexta is a petrol model the diesel will likely have similar mounting areas.
This is my loader

It bolts on the back axle (likely same as yours)

And at the back of the transmission( also same as yours)

And at the front of the engine (this is where petrol and diesel are different)

No matter what your tractor is there should be several hefty mounting points on it.
Hope that helps

Mine is a Diesel, and I am concerned about how the front able support is constructed, and what load it can take.
I guess if it holds the front axle, it can take some loading.
But I am a civil engineer, and am concerned about loading that part incorrectly.
Those images have helped also

mine is supported at three points... the axle, the transmission and the front of the motor so the load is spread across the whole tractor

John Daley asked me to post some pics of my dexta with frontend loader that was fitted in the late 60's. I just took a heap of photos and uploaded them to a really old flickr account of mine (was amazed the account still existed). There is also some old photos in there from when the loader was fully functional and being used all the time.
I haven't got time at the moment to muck around trying to get everything just right, not even sure if the photos will be visible to all.
So let me know if you need more information, better pics, or want to suggest a better way to present the info.
Here is the link to my free flickr photstream which I think should be open for public viewing. If you click on the first photo it will then enter a slideshow (with an advertising slide injected now and then).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/30162253@N07/

Thanks

Wow... But that is a Dexta fitted behind a loader, not a loader fitted to a Dexta

I'm not sure I can see any advantage to doing it that way, having the loader fixed to the front axle with a pivot under the back - but it is certainly different

Don't forget, everything is back to front when you go down under

blackbob wrote:Wow... But that is a Dexta fitted behind a loader, not a loader fitted to a Dexta

I'm not sure I can see any advantage to doing it that way, having the loader fixed to the front axle with a pivot under the back - but it is certainly different

Lol, you're not wrong there. The bucket is approximate 1/2 cubic metre. I also have a pallet fork attachment. The loader easily lifts way over a metric tonne and I was told it worked fro many years shovelling manure etc.
The design makes sense to me. The loader wants to rotate about a point at the bottom of the the main rams. To do this it wants to lift the back of the tractor, (so that rear pivot is all it needs), and most of the weight is borne upon the front axle, the actual tractor takes none of the load. The power steering (and plenty of air in the front tyres) is essential if you want to lift any significant weight. The tractor is mounted to the loader with pivots at front and back, so the tractor rotates around the loader when going across a slope or uneven ground. It is strictly for fairly level ground.

Hmmm...

Sorry.. but I'm not convinced. You have 2 pivot points to lubricate instead of 1. You lose the attachment point for a 'normal' drawbar, unless you weld something to the rear-most pivot assembly. And isn't there a small risk to your feet, if you drive over uneven ground and the chassis suddenly comes closer to the pedals/footrests?

Although.. I can see that when you are carrying a heavy or one-sided load, you are less likely to lift one back wheel off the ground, which would be helpful if the tractor doesn't have a diff-lock. And it looks well able to lift and carry heavy loads.

Just for the sake of comparison.. I found this video of the Massey equivalent, everyone's favourite, the 203: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-HBtCMo268