Dexta Or Super Dexta

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Dexta Or Super Dexta

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Hi All

I Have a dexta tractor purchased recently

It as a normal round nose cone with the dexta bonnet curved not straight tractor is painted blue and orange wheels.

It has live drive diff lock and mechanical lift pump and pick up hitch

Serial number 09C/733133

Question is: is it a dexta or super dexta ? and should it be blue & orange or blue and white

should it have the peaked hat nose cone and straight bonnet?.

I am looking to keep it original any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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the dexta was made with locking diff an mech/pump and live
up untill 64 the same as the super dexta, the colour changed mid 63 to blue
/grey so it is likely a dexta rather than a super dexta, nose cone being the main
differance in the two, could be a new preformance dexta with red painted wheels
or they could have been changed at some time in the last 50years :D

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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going by your serial no. your model is a standard dexta from January 1963, Fordson Empire blue with orange wheels :clap:

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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Check out the engine number, front left under the the cyl head.
My bet is it starts 15xxxxx
If it starts 16xxxxx it's a Super
Also check out the casting codes (inc the engine) just to confirm she's not an asp / bitsa.
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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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Thanks all

Engine Number is 1615848

So it seems its a super

Would it be blue / orange or blue grey? and would it have top hat nose or round nose?

Thanks

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you will need the casting codes to properly date it but as the engine could be a
replacment from a donner tractor if it is a super as it does seem it should have
a super nose cone , it seems it is a super dexta with a standered nose cone or a
standered dexta with a super dexta engine what number is on the fuel pump
that is the number on the small aolly tab stuck on the front of pump
if it is 4696 it will be after june 63 and be a new preformance super dexta if 4588
it will be earlier one, another pice in the jigsaw sorry tractor :D if it is the earlier dexta/ superdexta
before june 63 it will be blue/ orange ie orange wheels after june 63 blue/ grey ie ford grey wheels :D
[dare i scratch my head]

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RpB1969 wrote:Engine Number is 1615848
That engine no is for end of 1962, so date checks out with your tractor no.
We need the casting codes, hopefully not a bitsa.
Does she have a separate 'ignition' key on RH side of lower panel?
And a plastic knob on both gear sticks?
And flow control hydraulics?
And a Super radiator (taller than for a Standard)?
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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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OK Thanks all for your help so far

Answer to the following after going down to the workshop

Ignition Key is in the middle of the light switch (but it does have a hole in the cowling on the right hand side) so I suspect it has been changed incorrectly.

Fuel pump number is 4588

Gear box (if I have the right numbers?) 957E 7005 P21H

Trans box 957E 4024 T1

Axle 957E 0120

Axle 957E 4013B

Radiator circa 21" high no room to get my hand between top and nose.

Regards

Rob

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And

Plastic knobs on both gear sticks...

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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hi there is only the one casting no you have giving p21h off gear box the other numbers
are on all the dexta range , so you would need the other casting codes
the other numbers they will be simular to p21h , there is a number
under seat on lift cover
on transmission housing r/h side
on both back axels lookig from back of tractor
the p-21-h is dec -21 -1962

its looking like standered dexta with mech pump will be orange wheels and
most parts will most likely be late 62 first half 63
will need the other casting codes to propely date

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Ok Been and had another look

Transmission case is T1 only number I can read other than the ones in above post

Hyd top cover P19H

Rear axle N1H

cant read the other axle to much paint

Don't mind if it a standard

just wont to know so I can order the correct parts and we have the correct nose cone and wheel colours

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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that shows she is compleat tractor a lest all casting codes are same year dec 62
now wheels are easy rotavator orange , blue hmmm,rub under bonnet and get a match
of same colour paint if it has a standered dexta nose cone
and bonnet, standered dexta , if bonnet is stright line then i would say super/dexta

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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A standard radiator has a core 14.3/4" high, with overall height ~20".

As you have a Super engine (eng# starts 16..), my money is on a Super.

Your cast codes (N1H - 1Nov62, P19H - 19Dec62, P21H - 21Dec62) appear to check out for a late '62 tractor, so she's not a bitsa - great news :D

Just to confirm, get the rest of the codes, clutch, rear end +trumpets, + engine cast code (see sticky).

I believe a Super rad is ~2" higher overall, but believe it is possible to get a Super rad under a Standard nose (Stefan Riegel did this).
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on this one the raditor being standered dexta bonnet and nosecone
engine no 16xxxx were same on dexta and superdexta range mid 62
untill sept 64 :)

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sky blue wrote:... engine no 16xxxx were same on dexta and superdexta range mid 62
untill sept 64 :)
Is that correct? My self-compiled list shows that standards after about March '62 have eng nos starting 15... Admittendly I only have three examples. Guess not many standards were built after Supers came out.

Guess we'll have to wait till RpB takes his head off and mics his bores! :wink:

Engine & clutch cast codes would be interesting!
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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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Ok Guys

Been and had another look

Following info

Engine T 52

0r 3711310

or GKN 1372 1G

Clutch

090733133

Radiator

core circa 15 1/2 "

just over 21" high in total

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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all your dates are matching incuding engine 5th dec 62 ,so for the paint which was on tractor
when bought, i would say is correct , if all tin work looks orignal things like all lines matching
nosecone and bonnet right through to diesel tank and orignal screws ect for bonnet
then most likeky they where on tractor when first produced ,your tractor is orignal ,
getting hard to come by now,

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Re: Dexta Or Super Dexta

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Thanks RpB, that's another one in my serial no list.

The clutch no you quote is not the date-related cast code. If you can suss out the clutch cast code that would be great! :wink:
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