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Big starter problem

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:24 am
by MyDexta
Ok.. bare with me.
Tried to start tractor...would not engage. This had happened several times before..always ended up finally engaging
So I Jiggled and tried over and over..
Finally it engaged but would not disengage and I jerked it back up.
I tried again and could only get the starter to spin..
I took off the starter.. and took the lever out of the starter to check for broken parts..all springs were intact and I choked for proper movement.. it had full range of motion... I can only think that something else in the start housing has come aprt...
One other issue.. I changed out the ignition switch and tried again with some jumper cables..
The polarity seemed to change and the starter would spin even when the lever was not engaged

Ideas?

I can't really test it except on a bench cuz my Dexta is 300 miles away.

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:57 am
by Bluebilly
There is a clutch arrangement in the starter and this may have failed. I had a problem early this year where the starter would engage, but just spin without turning the flywheel - I got it refurbished and now all is good - maybe you have the same fault. The polarity doesn't really matter on these starters they will work positive of negative earth.

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:05 am
by Brian
Sounds like the solenoid if the starter spins without pressing the lever down.

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:41 pm
by MikesDexta
I tested mine by simulating the starting process on the bench. first running jump leads from the battery +ve to starter casing and battery -ve to the starter terminal. I then ran a crocodile clip lead from the battery to the starter switch and finally clamped the mechanical switch shut with a large spring crocodile clamp.

If all is well then the starter spins and shoots out (make sure the starter motor is strapped to a bench as the vibration and jolt may cause damage - to itself and stuff around it - not to mention your heart...). When refitting to the tractor if the starter spins but doesn't engage I'd put my shirt on it being the solenoid. Did you get any smoke coming from it? I toasted my solenoid after trying to start a stuck engine, miraculously the bag of spanners repro starter somehow, and rather sadly, survived.

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:48 pm
by MyDexta
I can't recall if there was smoke or not.
I was mainly focused on why the starter would spin without the lever depressed.
I wanted to chase down the short so I removed the starter and solenoid ( it was mounted separately on firewall--is that the Noid we are referring too?) My 67 mustang has one just like it mounted on the passenger fenderwell)
I'll try to bench test starter...used to have fun with that as a youngster working on Chevy Corvair motors....
Does anyone know someone that works on these starters in NC ...just in case I need it?

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:57 am
by brownsmule
Hello MyDexta // where are you in NC // I am in rowan county in case I could be of help to you // Sometimes my starter does not disengage so I just turn the switch OFF and that cures the immediate problem // I have a parts Dexta // brownsmule in Mooresville NC USA

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:57 pm
by MyDexta
Work in Statesville.. live in Advance, near Winston-Salem

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:01 am
by brownsmule
Hello MyDexta // give me a call or email IF I can be of help // 7046641717 and perbro@windstream.net // Best Regards brownsmule Mooresville adrs in Rowan County

Re: Big starter problem

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:34 pm
by MyDexta
Hey.. yeah..I PMd u awhile ago... I'll email u soon...mine is tareece at a0ldot comm