6 cyl starter motor

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6 cyl starter motor

Postby 1962 model » Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:46 pm

Hello all,
I am considering which is the best way to set up a starter motor for the 6cyl Super Major I am building.

I have the Bosch one from the Combine with the electric solinoid but this doesn't really allow the tool box to be fitted along side, as the solinoid protrudes out.

I have not seen the 6cyl Thames Trader starter, does this allow the original manual engagement like the Fordsons?


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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby Grani » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:13 pm

The Trader has an electric solenoid as well. There are Trader starters with the solenoid in different positions though. You can use the Fordson orginal starter if you like.
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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby 1962 model » Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:58 pm

Thanks Garani,
I had thought that a 4cyl Fordson starter would struggle to have the torque required to do the job.

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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby Grani » Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:18 pm

1962 model wrote:Thanks Garani,
I had thought that a 4cyl Fordson starter would struggle to have the torque required to do the job.

Mike

That can happen at cold weather depending on the engine oil in use, but normally it starts very easy even with bad batterys.
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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby Kiwi Kev » Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:00 pm

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When changing starter motors between engines, check they have the same number of teeth on the starter pinion.
I have two Major engines, and they each have different numbers of teeth on the ring gear and on the pinion.
The pinion was only one tooth different, but enough to make it bind up.
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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby Steven B » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:31 am

Mark 1 Thames Traders have the same starter as the Tractor, even six cylinder models. The mechanical start lever came up through the floor next to the gear lever. I have one of these in the yard. After 1961 they all got an electric solenoid.

I have confirmed this in the Thames Trader parts book. E1ADDN-11000-C then E1ADDN-11000-D.
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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby 1962 model » Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:14 am

Thank you very much, that is the kind of information I needed to hear.
I will be at a wreckers on Friday and hope I can find one, otherwise I will be on the scrounge for one.

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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby 1962 model » Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:28 pm

Thanks Steven,
Are you saying that the mark 1 six and the 4 starters are Identicle? same windings and armature?

I did finally get to the werecers and they had a recondidioned one from a place that closed down some years ago, hopefully that will do the trick!

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Re: 6 cyl starter motor

Postby Steven B » Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:21 pm

1962 model wrote:Thanks Steven,
Are you saying that the mark 1 six and the 4 starters are Identicle? same windings and armature?

I did finally get to the werecers and they had a recondidioned one from a place that closed down some years ago, hopefully that will do the trick!

Mike


In the Thames Trader parts book the 6 cylinder Mk1 has the same starter as the 4. There is another "cold starting conditions" heavy duty option but in WA you should be fine.

If you have trouble finding one I would suggest the truck wreckers and get one of a D series truck, diesel of course. They work. You will have to wire in a starter switch as they do not use the lever.

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