Karma and a Super Six

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:15 am

Monday was a holiday over here so we spent most of the day working on her. we got the transmission back in a few weeks ago, had to wait a few weeks to get a bushing, I should have just made one on the lathe but I had other things going at the time anyway. The engine has been bolted in for a week or more, this morn I rebuilt the injectors and bolted the pump on while Marc put on the manifolds, starter, dumped in oil, etc. Still have a lot to do before we can drive it around the yard.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby super6954 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:26 am

Hi Pat
Nice to see her running, fired right up just like she should :D . if your clip had been a bit longer with more smoke, I would of sworn you had an Allison v12 air craft motor running in your shop. She barks like one :lol: .
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Sat Sep 13, 2014 3:39 am

Thanks Robert! It always makes ya feel good when they just pop off and run.

Any one know what throttle linkage setup this thing is saposta have? the original pump only had the bracket mounted to the bottom of the pump, the pump I put on has a linkage arm, spring, and the bracket that is upside down from the other pump. I'm not sure if the original one was corect, missing parts, or maybe the new one is for a truck or other equipment, regardless if it belongs on the county it doesn't look to me like it is quite rite? the new pump has the arm on the back to attach the tractors throttle rod to as the original had.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:33 pm

I've been busy lately but I did take some time to rebuild a water pump for her and got the wishbone patched up where it had been torched.

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Yesterday the local Two Cylinder club had a plow day, they were quite outnumbered by the other brands but I'm quite sure everyone had a good time. One of the leading members of the club is my old high school Ag class teacher, Al Wichmann, whom my two boys also had for their Ag teacher a few years before he retired. It's always good to see him, a wonderful man that taught me as much about life as agriculture. It was a beautiful day and there is nothing else I would have rather been doing that afternoon.
Marc ran the Selene/Power Major all afternoon, the first time she has been worked since she got panted a few years ago, he finally burned all the paint off the exhaust manifold. And she ran great with out a single problem!
I was running the Super Major that is to be the back half of the Doe. I don't think we got all the mouse nests out of the radiator, she has been mowing grass all summer with no problems but when hooked to the plow she ran a little hot from time to time. It took me a round or two to get the plow set properly and actually dig in, but all in all it went quite well.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby Nick » Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:02 pm

That engine sounds sweet pat! Is that a minimec or vacuum pump, what hp? I don't think I've got the timing right on one of mine - the one without any timing marks - it just hasn't got that bark to it, unless its the exhaust, cos its got plenty of grunt. What exhaust have you got on that one?
Oh yay, look, another seized bolt! Lets get a hammer.....and some kano.....and some cider!
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:38 am

Thanks Nick! I believe these engines were rated at 95hp, and it does have the Minimic pump. the exhaust is the downward 3 piece manifold that is on the most of these, but straight off the manifold as I don't have the pipe hooked up yet.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:57 am

You learn something new everyday!
I always assumed the super Six used stock frame rails with the rear cast iron brackets making up the difference, I found out I was wrong when I got one out of the barn today to replace the one that had been notched for the D engine.

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I ended up welding a patch on it.

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Then found out the front motor mount holes are a good inch forward of the standard mounts. this meant I had to cut, lengthen, and reweld the brackets I had made. (the original correct ones had been torched off the 590E).

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby Steven B » Sun Dec 28, 2014 9:40 am

BearCreek Majors wrote:Thanks Robert! It always makes ya feel good when they just pop off and run.

Any one know what throttle linkage setup this thing is saposta have? the original pump only had the bracket mounted to the bottom of the pump, the pump I put on has a linkage arm, spring, and the bracket that is upside down from the other pump. I'm not sure if the original one was corect, missing parts, or maybe the new one is for a truck or other equipment, regardless if it belongs on the county it doesn't look to me like it is quite rite? the new pump has the arm on the back to attach the tractors throttle rod to as the original had.

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That pump mounted on the engine is set up for truck application. You can remove that lever, spring and bracket. The governor control lever is on that same shaft but on the engine side. The lever on trucks and tractors are identical and they are the also same as the four cylinder Minimec on Super Majors.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:54 pm

Last weekend Marc and I spent an afternoon working on the Super Six. After I installed the new mounts and frame rails I realized the left rail was a little higher than the right so I took the bracket back off and slotted the mounting holes a little. I wish I would have noticed before I marked the holes but it’s not the end of the world. We got the front axel ready to go other than I still have to finish repairs to the front pivot bearing, but we got it under the tractor while I had Marc there to help me.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Mon May 04, 2015 1:15 am

Hi guys, I've been a little slacking on keeping everyone updated on the progress, I'll try to get some pic's posted later of how things went together.
This weekend we went up to Uncle Vic's for plow day, and as usual had a blast. absolutely outstanding weather and very few breakdowns for the entire crew. The boys and I brought the 54 not for export up (for the third year in a row) and the County Six, as well as my cousin bringing Uncle Kenny's Super Major. The 54 preformed flawlessly as usual pulling 3-14's most of the day and a 12' drag later in the afternoon. But the most fun was the Super Six! the engine probably had less than an hour on it so I took it easy the first few rounds across the field but in no time we had her in third gear and the smoke was rolling every time we rolled through a vein of clay. The temp and oil pressure held great and we had absolutely no mechanical issues apart from one power steering hose weeping a little. I was a little leery about this 4-16 plow being to big for her but she proved us wrong in short order, by the end of the day we were in a dry soybean field running in forth gear, I was absolutely amazed.There is no doubt when someone brought this thing home new in 1964, they were the big dog on the block!

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby oehrick » Mon May 04, 2015 2:16 am

Sounds an absolute treat Pat, pulling well :mrgreen: how many weights on front to compensate for that missing hood ? and save you running down the furrow on your back wheels ?? :thumbs:
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Tue May 05, 2015 1:06 pm

Earlier in the day Marc had the plow down deep in some clay and got her up on the back wheels......not exactly the way four wheel drives are designed to work, and we actually have 200lb's on each front tire.
I really thought I had a shot at a bonnet a few weeks ago, there was one for sale on ebay but the guy ended the auction early, I haven't stopped pouting yet. I'll probably end up having to make one.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby ford5000y » Tue May 05, 2015 4:05 pm

It pulls the plow as if it's just dragging a trailer! Pulls like a train, quite literally :D

And the engine noise... it sounds like the engine thanks you for putting her back in the running. It's so loud that it drowns the noise of those two-cylinder John Deeres, which I hardly noticed :mrgreen:

Where's its smaller brother, the Super 4?
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Fri May 08, 2015 12:49 pm

The Super four got left at home this year, maybe next year we will bring the both of them up there, It would be nice to see them working together.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Fri May 15, 2015 3:05 am

OK so I kinda lost track of where I left of, so I'll try to just hit a few things.
We got it back together and running with a fresh rebuilt injection pump I had stumbled across real cheap, I didn't realize how good of a deal I got until I opened up the old one and saw how bad it was. the first thing I realized with the new one is that it was probably off a truck as the WOT was way to high and when I first drove it around I realized it basically had no governor. So I set the two pumps side by side with the end covers off, and all the parts on the governors looked identical other than a few adjustments. I set the WOT down to where the original was (hit it dead nuts at 2000 RPM) and opened the fuel rack max to the same as the old pump as well. And I don't plan on touching it again, she performed perfectly out in the field.

Made a new plate for the front axle pivot and brazed up the housing where it was broken.
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Had to make all the fuel lines as the originals were ether smashed or missing, still have to make a new one from the filter to the injection pump.
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Rebuilt the power steering ram, have a few tools that I have made. had to mill some material off the ball cap on the end of the ram and then made a .010 shim for it to get 0 backlash. These caps are HARD, don't even think of machining them without carbide tooling.
A few years ago I bought probably the last NOS felt gasket for the ball joints(they couldn't find me a second one), I then bought some felt material and have been cutting my own while keeping the original as a pattern.
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby Steven B » Fri May 15, 2015 7:08 am

BearCreek Majors wrote:OK so I kinda lost track of where I left of, so I'll try to just hit a few things.
We got it back together and running with a fresh rebuilt injection pump I had stumbled across real cheap, I didn't realize how good of a deal I got until I opened up the old one and saw how bad it was. the first thing I realized with the new one is that it was probably off a truck as the WOT was way to high and when I first drove it around I realized it basically had no governor. So I set the two pumps side by side with the end covers off, and all the parts on the governors looked identical other than a few adjustments. I set the WOT down to where the original was (hit it dead nuts at 2000 RPM) and opened the fuel rack max to the same as the old pump as well. And I don't plan on touching it again, she performed perfectly out in the field.


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You have done the right thing regarding the pump. I am putting a truck pump on my Super 6 only because I had two fully rebuilt ones on the shelf. Before I made the decision I had my Injection man, an old English gentleman who worked at Simms in the 1960s, compare the specs for the truck pump and the County pump. They are identical other than the maximum RPM setting. The County should be set to 2200 rpm but 2000 rpm sounds like a more likely maximum.

Your tractor makes light work of that big plough. What revs were you using in 4th gear?

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Fri May 15, 2015 1:20 pm

One of my books rated the Super Six at 97 hp@2000 rpm, so that was where I set it, but now that its broke in and running better its probably closer to 2200. as the tac is non functional I had checked it with a hand held tac, so all I can tell you is we were running full throttle while plowing.
As far as the fuel rack setting, the old pump didn't have a seal on the screw, and the new pump did, but when I ran it down the road in high gear and got on the brakes, all it would do is labor and barley blow any smoke out the stack. So I broke the seal on the new pump and opened it up the same as the old, this made a big difference and it now rolls some smoke and pulls like a mule when its loaded down.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:52 pm

We went camping out at Grandmas this 4th of July holiday weekend and I took the Super Six along to tinker with while we were out there. I finally got the wiring harness I made on it, got the new Generator/dynamo working as well as a stop cable and some other things. when I was done the guys kept bugging me to take it out in the swamp.... I told them they could take it and if they got it stuck they would be the one dragging the cable out to winch it back in. we didn't have to use the winch.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby oehrick » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:00 am

Didn't know y'all had y'own redneck yachting club Pat :D She's running well but you really need one of those R/C helicopter / cameras if you want to pick up Utoob hits (and your most photogenic driver).

Speaking of which, hope Granny had a word with the young lady first so she knows what not to get caught in the mangle (wringer ?) or SS - I hope the stateside PPE catches on over here, where it is all Hi Vis jackets and safety boots :clap:

Glad you had a good 4th

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:07 am

I don't think those duds are exactly proper PPE's... but I don't plan on reporting her to OSHA.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:27 am

So here's another one of my pet peeves that I got done before the Symco Thrasharee this summer, I final sucked it up and made a steel bonnet for the Super Six.
Took two bonnets and started cutting and welding, made a “hump" on the side for the air cleaner, had to move the rear latch on the left side, and it actually fit quite well.
Being as anal as I am it was a struggled for me to have to make it from steel rather than fiberglass as it should be, but in the end it probably fit better and will most likely hold up better.

I also made a new wiring harness for it. As far as I can tell, County just half assidly mounted the starter solenoid and voltage regulator out in the open by the front of the left running board, presumably so that the original wiring harness didn’t have to be altered with the addition of the larger air cleaner. Again as anal as I am about keeping it original, I just couldn’t stand having it hanging out in the open. So I mounted the solenoid under the battery box as the early ones were, and mounted the voltage regulator on the front right side of the firewall, nice and clean.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby oehrick » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:33 am

That hood looks the business Pat, fibreglass is OK if you have or can make a mold but yours in steel, especially with that tubular frame, is a super job - has it passed the Granny QC test yet ??
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:28 am

Thanks Rick, and yes it got the Granny seal of approval. Even she noticed how much longer it looks with a bonnet on it.

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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby henk » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:15 pm

Great skills. :clap:
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Re: Karma and a Super Six

Postby BearCreek Majors » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:23 pm

Thanks Henk!

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