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county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:03 pm
by brockwood
Image hi all went to this years colac vic aus heritage festival was an Alice feature last year fordson next Landrover any way the attached was quite interesting one would think just another modded fordson as he thought when he got it but further research has revealed it to be one of three two wheel drive super sixes sent out on trial to compete with the chamberlains verified buy a former malcome moore who were the distributors employee he fitted the wider wheels b

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:36 pm
by Kiwi Kev
Brockwood
Very interesting photo.
So County, merely turned the 'A' frame around to allow for the 6 cyl engine. (granted, being only a trial machine, it may have been more substancially manufactured if secessfull)
Being that it is only 1 of 3, I take it was not put into regular production as a 2wd super 6
Kiwi Kev

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:21 pm
by Aussie Frank
I have seen that tractor before. I can't remember which tractor pull it was at but it didn't look right at the time and it didn't have the front weight and the A frame on it at the time. Personally I would want to see some documentation to prove it's origins before I believed the story that went with it. The rear wheels were definately welded with a strip of steel to widen them.

It is just too easy to drop a six in and claim it was something special IMHO.

Regards, Frank.

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:44 am
by liam
Thats not a genuine county ,I have a picture in a book here of one .It has a nose cone like a normal super 6 and the front axle looks different and seems to be braced towards the rear of the tractor .Only three were made, one stayed in the UK and I think the other two were sent to south america .There is no mention of any going to Australia.Hope this helps, Liam.

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:35 am
by super6954
Hi Liam
Sounds like you have been reading the same article in the magazine that landed here in my mail box in Canada on Friday :wink: :) I wish I had one of those Countys, Or the parts where easy to get here :cry: I'd love to build a replica of it. I'm not a fan of that nose cone on the 4x4 county :eyes: but it looks totally different on the 2 wd for some reason 8) :D .
Who knows maybe there was a county dealer/ distribution center in Aus that did them in their shop to sell :idea: :)
Regards Robert

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:37 pm
by liam
Hi Robert I think we may be looking at the same picture in Classic Tractor,however I have a picture in a book here I got a few years back which is abit bigger .If you look at the plate where the belt pulley goes there appears to be a plate on it ,If it is what I think it is it will say county heavy duty gearbox , they reason I am thinking this is there was a super locally a few years back with this.It would be great to see some more deatailed pictures of it.Liam.

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:14 pm
by Aussie Frank
Hi Guys,

I found the link to the previous post where this tractor showed up. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=726&hilit=ballan At that time it did not have the wish bone or the "Super 6" front weight.

I am also not convinced by the front weight at all. I can not find another photo like it anywhere and the script on the front is wrong. All counties had a small s the same as all the other letters in all the other pictures I could find of super 6's and super 4's. Scripts and logos are usually a strictly controlled corporate thing and for the larger S to suddenly appear and then dissappear again is not at all logical. I smell a fake here. I just hope no one gets sucked in and pays a big price for this tractor.

Regards, Frank.

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:05 pm
by Pascal
Hi guys,

I know a bit about County and I would not bet my money on it either. :?
But the owner did make a nice conversion by himself with the front weight. :D

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:03 am
by BearCreek Majors
I gota agree with you guys, I would have to assume if it was the real McCoy it would have both the gearbox tag and a ID tag identifying it as a two wheel drive. The front weight also looks to me like it was fabricated from flat stock and welded together, and I’ll be the first to admit that it was done very well, but the corners look to sharp, not the bigger radius and slightly rough as mine is.

Pat

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Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:41 pm
by 1962 model
super6954 wrote:Hi Liam
Sounds like you have been reading the same article in the magazine that landed here in my mail box in Canada on Friday :wink: :) I wish I had one of those Countys, Or the parts where easy to get here :cry: I'd love to build a replica of it. I'm not a fan of that nose cone on the 4x4 county :eyes: but it looks totally different on the 2 wd for some reason 8) :D .
Who knows maybe there was a county dealer/ distribution center in Aus that did them in their shop to sell :idea: :)
Regards Robert


I know of two Wheat belt mechanical work shops in West Australia which many years ago converted both Fordsons and Chamberlains to Ford 6cyl they were at Quardaring and another place, Merridan I think.
One of the guys served his time at the Dagenham plant in England, so did know a thing or two about these models, he has been to my place and had a look at the Super Major that I am very slowly doing, he said that they used to extend the fuel tank into the battery compartment and fitted the batteries to the side rails, I am not keen to do this myself and plan to make things as un noticable as possible, he also said that they used the later models for the conversion because they had stronger axles, I think he was meaning the change of rear axle that seems to have occurred in the Power Major when they changed from a slot in the outside end to two drilled holes.
This guy sold me spares for various Fordson over the years in the local Ford dealership covering the 70's through the 1990's he is retired now.
Another thing I am surprised that no one has commented that the front casting on the 6cyl pictured seems to be a Power Major one, but the front pannel and bonnet is Super Major.
I have seen a 2 wheel drive 6cyl on a comercial CD he stated that there were three made and they were green in colour
I don't believe the one pictured was an original proto type, firstly the model parts are mixed and I find it hard to believe that they would reverse the A frame, given all the options open to them.

Mike

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:31 am
by brockwood
hi all i should have said i think[ he claimed] i have seen the tractor twice since and i agree with what been said i enclose some more pics from that day and a still and clip of the maxican test the second fordson has the same front axal set up they both have had the a frame cut and the pivot shifted to the cross brace the secong one [his story] was it was done by malcome moore who fited the larger engine it apears to be the 4 cyd of the 380 upright which is i think around 70 hp ? my best bet is they built both built by malcome moore http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g32 ... 9163a1.jpg http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g32 ... 079370.jpg[ihttp://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g321/brockwood1/colac4_zpsc8079370.jpgmghttp://i1096.photobucket.com/album ... 079370.jpg]http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g321/brockwood1/super6_zps914f958f.jpg[i[imghttp://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g321/brockwood1/super6_zps914f958f.jpg][/img]mg][/img][/img]

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:28 pm
by brockwood
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Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:45 pm
by steveg
I'm fairly sure this tractor was the one sold at a Bacchus Marsh sale a few years back and at the time nothing about it added up to it being county. It didn't have the county transmission badge on the side of the gearbox and it didn't have the bigger air cleaner necessary for the bigger engine. The radius arm was also missing. So it could have been converted new to six cylinder by some local firm but very unlikely by county.
One of the three converted tractors was sold in England and one went to mexico which can be seen working in Stuart Gibbards county DVD and the other I don't know. It may be in Australia somewhere but who knows.

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:39 pm
by edmundld
I worked for County Tractors from 1968 to 1971 in the sales department. They made what they called the 952, a two wheel drive 6 cylinder tractor. I only saw and drove the one built on the Ford 5000 unit. The idea was to make them for South Africa and Australia, where Ford Dealers had requested such units.
I tested and drove the 952, ploughing with it, and it was a very nice unit. However for some reason it appeared , Ford disapproved of it, so it was not made in any quantity.County then went on and made the 852, which was the first turbocharged Ford 5000. Again this time Ford bought some units and then took over production, buying the first few hundred kits from County.

Re: county super 6 2wheel drive

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:55 pm
by Bensdexta
brockwood wrote:hi all i should have said i think[ he claimed] i have seen the tractor twice since and i agree with what been said i enclose some more pics from that day and a still and clip of the maxican test the second fordson has the same front axal set up they both have had the a frame cut and the pivot shifted to the cross brace this [his story] was it was done by malcome moore who fited the larger engine it apears to be the 4 cyd of the 380 upright which is i think around 70 hp ? my best bet is they built both b
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