Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

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Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Jimcdbts » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:24 pm

The Fordson tractor engine was available as an industrial engine from the outset of tractor production ,however in 1957 with the introduction of the mk2 engine and also the introduction of the Thames Trader a new range of Industrial engines was introduced the 589E ,590E ,591E and 592E 4 and 6 cylinder petrol and diesel engines. These were produced on a dedicated engine line and were introduced in 1957 and made until July 1967for 6 cyl and April 1970 for 4 cyl . They all have serial no beginning with S and some can be found fitted to Fordson majors as replacements. Thames trader engines can also sometimes be found in the tractors and these also have separate serial nos with a different prefix 530E for the 4 cylinder diesel. I have copied the serial nos into tables a will post here, it is an incomplete listing as i am missing the data for early and late Thames trader engines and some early nos for the industrials In March 1965 the engine line at Dagenham started to produce the new 2700 range derived from the earlier range. These were produced as both industrial and truck engines for the new D series. The two engine ranges going down the line until July 1967 for 6 cyl and April 1970 for 4 cyl ,when the old range was discontinued. In March 1964 the engine castings for all tractor ,truck and industrial engines ceased to be sourced from the Dagenham foundry and were instead supplied by Sterling Metals Ltd of Nuneaton. All engine castings for the old range of engines up until April 1970 came from this source.The serial numbers should be usefull to those trying to identify and date tractors with these engines fitted instead of the proper tractor engine. Prior to The introduction of the 598-592 range engine the industrial engines had other designations ie 954E 4 cyl Diesel, 955E 4 cyl petrol ,956E Vap oil, 562E 4 cyl Diesel, and 563E 4 cyl petrol all versions of the tractor engine.I don`t have any serial no details of these engines. After April 1970 the old range of 4 cyl 592E engine was manufactured for Ford by Ebro in Spain and was supplied with a proper S industrial ford serial no until 1974 after which it became a purely Ebro engine with no Ford logo or serial no.


Ford Industrial Engine Serial Numbers (FORDSON TYPE)
589E 6 cyl petrol, 590E 6 cyl Diesel, 591E 4 cyl Petrol, 592E 4 cyl Diesel,see the later list for serial nos after 1967 as 592E still available with Industrial S serial number up until 1974.
Jan-57 S??????? Sep-60 S202905 May-64 S382700
Feb-57 S??????? Oct-60 S206901 Jun-64 S390839
Mar-57 S??????? Nov-60 S210942 Jul-64 S394937
Apr-57 S??????? Dec-60 S214742 Aug-64 S394956
May-57 S??????? Jan-61 S217975 Sep-64 S400673
Jun-57 S??????? Feb-61 S221604 Oct-64 S406675
Jul-57 S??????? Mar-61 S225057 Nov-64 S418756
Aug-57 S??????? Apr-61 S227978 Dec-64 S422678
Sep-57 S??????? May-61 S231414 Jan-65 S440281
Oct-57 S??????? Jun-61 S236082 Feb-65 S445910
Nov-57 S??????? Jul-61 S237874 Mar-65 S451298
Dec-57 S??????? Aug-61 S238903 Apr-65 S457000
Jan-58 S??????? Sep-61 S242359 May-65 S463428
Feb-58 S??????? Oct-61 S244400 Jun-65 S469622
Mar-58 S??????? Nov-61 S249731 Jul-65 S482814
Apr-58 S??????? Dec-61 S255104 Aug-65 S484589
May-58 S??????? Jan-62 S257192 Sep-65 S487681
Jun-58 S??????? Feb-62 S259489 Oct-65 S498509
Jul-58 S??????? Mar-62 S262626 Nov-65 S502046
Aug-58 S??????? Apr-62 S268839 Dec-65 S510728
Sep-58 S??????? May-62 S272344 Jan-66 S513700
Oct-58 S??????? Jun-62 S275066 Feb-66 S523258
Nov-58 S??????? Jul-62 S279924 Mar-66 S531279
Dec-58 S??????? Aug-62 S282285 Apr-66 S535394
Jan-59 S??????? Sep-62 S289685 May-66 S539792
Feb-59 S??????? Oct-62 S293014 Jun-66 S542772
Mar-59 S152148 Nov-62 S295456 Jul-66 S547427
Apr-59 S154346 Dec-62 S299492 Aug-66 S553502
May-59 S156723 Jan-63 S302340 Sep-66 S559860
Jun-59 S158770 Feb-63 S306878 Oct-66 S570998
Jul-59 S160725 Mar-63 S310092 Nov-66 S577774
Aug-59 S162216 Apr-63 S313698 Dec-66 S584206
Sep-59 S163319 May-63 S319286 Jan-67 S592917
Oct-59 S165585 Jun-63 S327953 Feb-67 S601371
Nov-59 S169826 Jul-63 S334757 Mar-67 S605856
Dec-59 S173638 Aug-63 S336412 Apr-67 S607484
Jan-60 S178862 Sep-63 S341829 May-67 S612949
Feb-60 S180946 Oct-63 S343696 Jun-67 S616139
Mar-60 S184210 Nov-63 S355712
Apr-60 S186928 Dec-63 S359567
May-60 S189906 Jan-64 S362864
Jun-60 S194532 Feb-64 S365837
Jul-60 S198584 Mar-64 S369385


FORD THAMES TRADER ENGINE SERIAL NUMBERS.
528E 4 CYL PETROL, 530E 4 CYL DIESEL, 508E 6 CYL DIESEL, 510E 6 CYL DIESEL

DATE 15TH OF MONTH 4 CYL ENGINES 6 CYL ENGINES DATE 15TH OF MONTH DATE 4 CYL ENGINES 6 CYL ENGINES
Jan-57 ????? ????? Apr-60 17522 46167
Feb-57 ????? ????? May-60 17963 48135
Mar-57 ????? ????? Jun-60 18646 49708
Apr-57 ????? ????? Jul-60 19178 51667
May-57 ????? ????? Aug-60 19291 52550
Jun-57 ????? ????? Sep-60 19291 54650
Jul-57 ????? ????? Oct-60 20569 56895
Aug-57 ????? ????? Nov-60 21184 59101
Sep-57 ????? ????? Dec-60 21987 61594
Oct-57 ????? ????? Jan-61 22652 63888
Nov-57 ????? ????? Feb-61 23092 65786
Dec-57 ????? ????? Mar-61 23466 67386
Jan-58 ????? ????? Apr-61 24651 68789
Feb-58 ????? ????? May-61 25024 71159
Mar-58 ????? ????? Jun-61 25398 73484
Apr-58 ????? ????? Jul-61 25630 75130
May-58 ????? ????? Aug-61 26050 75130
Jun-58 ????? ????? Sep-61 26471 77534
Jul-58 ????? ????? Oct-61 27089 78273
Aug-58 ????? ????? Nov-61 ????? ?????
Sep-58 ????? ????? Dec-61 ????? ?????
Oct-58 8988 17300 Jan-62 ????? ?????
Nov-58 9302 18472 Feb-62 ????? ?????
Dec-58 9632 19358 Mar-62 ????? ?????
Jan-59 9713 19986 Apr-62 ????? ?????
Feb-59 10330 22238 May-62 ????? ?????
Mar-59 10758 23267 Jun-62 ????? ?????
Apr-59 11164 24529 Jul-62 ????? ?????
May-59 11717 26121 Aug-62 ????? ?????
Jun-59 12311 27818 Sep-62 ????? ?????
Jul-59 12775 29813 Oct-62 ????? ?????
Aug-59 ????? ????? Nov-62 ????? ?????
Sep-59 13664 32859 Dec-62 ????? ?????
Oct-59 14249 34730
Nov-59 14774 36139
Dec-59 15210 38002
Jan-60 15768 39995
Feb-60 16975 42036
Mar-60 17250 43892




Ford Industrial Engine Serial Numbers(2700 RANGE)
2701E,2703E,2704E,2706E,2708E,2709E FEB1965-NOV1969 2704ET JULY1968-
2701C,2703C,2704C NOV 1969-OCT1970 2711E,2712E,2713E,2714,2715E OCT 1970-
DATE 4 Cylinder 6 Cylinder DATE 4 Cylinder 6 Cylinder
Mar-65 S451234 S451160 Jul-68 S663466 S663365
Apr-65 S456988 S457000 Aug-68 S665638 S665614
May-65 S463500 S463428 Sep-68 S669070 S669122
Jun-65 S469602 S469622 Oct-68 S672680 S672717
Jul-65 S482855 S482814 Nov-68 S676010 S675927
Aug-65 S484719 S484589 Dec-68 S679912 S679561
Sep-65 S487767 S487681 Jan-69 S683382 S683401
Oct-65 S498781 S498509 Feb-69 S687876 S687887
Nov-65 S502039 S502046 Mar-69 S689085 S689257
Dec-65 S510720 S510728 Apr-69 S692583 S692903
Jan-66 S513699 S513700 May-69 S698971 S698936
Feb-66 S523275 S523258 Jun-69 S704666 S704720
Mar-66 S531330 S531279 Jul-69 S709780 S709738
Apr-66 S535576 S535394 Aug-69 S711205 S711310
May-66 S539792 S539737 Sep-69 S718809 S718889
Jun-66 S542772 S542967 Oct-69 S724259 S724330
Jul-66 S547427 S547407 Nov-69 S730101 S730123
Aug-66 S553502 S553501 Dec-69 S734686 S734679
Sep-66 S559896 S559860 Jan-70 S739057 S739033
Oct-66 S570998 S571109 Feb-70 S743716 S743743
Nov-66 S577777 S577774 Mar-70 S747734 S747873
Dec-66 S584206 S584197 Apr-70 S752487 S752471
Jan-67 S592932 S592917 May-70 S757830 S757874
Feb-67 S597885 S597967 Jun-70 S763441 S763454
Mar-67 S601371 S601347 Jul-70 S767717 S767775
Apr-67 S606363 S605856 Aug-70 S769792 S769807
May-67 S607804 S607484 Sep-70 S776222 S776042
Jun-67 S612949 S613029 Oct-70 S780000 S780026
Jul-67 S616732 S616442 Nov-70 S783436 S783445
Aug-67 S618088 S618020 Dec-70 S786285 S786354
Sep-67 S620765 S620796 Jan-71 S789786 S789863
Oct-67 S623856 S623992 Feb-71 S789791 S789928
Nov-67 S633773 S633740 Mar-71 - -
Dec-67 S636539 S636717 Apr-71 S794694 S794763
Jan-68 S639513 S639279 May-71 S798220 S798519
Feb-68 S643522 S643538 Jun-71 S802546 S802682
Mar-68 S647473 S647430 Jul-71 S805082 S805188
Apr-68 S651667 S651556 Aug-71 S807218 S807124
May-68 S655355 S655569 Sep-71 S811211 S811235
Jun-68 S659130 S659141 Oct-71 S813802 S813870
DATE 4 Cylinder 6 Cylinder DATE 4 Cylinder 6 Cylinder
Nov-71 S818096 S818150 Aug-75
Dec-71 S820704 S820705 Sep-75
Jan-72 S823820 S823815 Oct-75
Feb-72 S826673 S826954 Nov-75
Mar-72 S829319 S829320 Dec-75
Apr-72 S831903 S831977 Jan-76
May-72 S835592 S835649 Feb-76
Jun-72 S841116 S841110 Mar-76
Jul-72 S843408 S841907 Apr-76
Aug-72 S844384 S844390 May-76
Sep-72 S851747 S851723 Jun-76
Oct-72 S852994 S852973 Jul-76
Nov-72 S856688 S856666 Aug-76
Dec-72 S859284 S859283 Sep-76
Jan-73 S863541 S863510 Oct-76
Feb-73 S866573 S866560 Nov-76
Mar-73 S870167 S870107 Dec-76
Apr-73 S872401 S872400 Jan-77
May-73 S876358 S876400 Feb-77
Jun-73 S880704 S880700 Mar-77
Jul-73 S882341 S882335 Apr-77
Aug-73 S884409 S884406 May-77
Sep-73 S887993 S887990 Jun-77
Oct-73 S892438 S892435 Jul-77
Nov-73 S896765 S896777 Aug-77
Dec-73 S898801 S898811 Sep-77
Jan-74 S903174 S903177 Oct-77
Feb-74 S906620 S906615 Nov-77
Mar-74 S912130 S912132 Dec-77
Apr-74 S916605 S916609 Jan-78
May-74 S920619 S920610 Feb-78
Jun-74 S925946 S925941 Mar-78
Jul-74 S929496 S929483 Apr-78
Aug-74 S936065 S936055 May-78
Sep-74 S938000 S937995 Jun-78
Oct-74 S940919 S940914 Jul-78
Nov-74 S946497 S946491 Aug-78
Dec-74 S949507 S949505 Sep-78
Jan-75 S954890 S954893 Oct-78
Feb-75 S961965 S961968 Nov-78
Mar-75 S963400 S963406 Dec-78
Apr-75 S968535 S968537
May-75 S974093 S974097
Jun-75 S977028 S977033
Jul-75
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Grani » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:19 pm

I have waited for this information for a very long time. :buddies:
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Jimcdbts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:30 pm

I will need to try and edit it a bit as it was in the form of a table but when i posted it the borders didn`t cross over and the list is a wee bit jumbled. up .Have had this info for over 25 years as i used work for a local engineering company where we used loads of Ford engines from our local power products dealer to install in all types of industrial plant and equipment .During My time it was mostly 2720 and BSD series engines but i do have all the books still and all the design installation books for the engines. Ford Power Products were great as you could build an installation and order up any parts within ford parts division as an OEM customer.We used parts from tractors, D series and cargo trucks , R series buses and even transits we even used axles from the FW60,s all ordered through the Ford Power Products division.
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Grani » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:21 pm

Yes, a more organized information would be better to read. I am interested in all kind of information about the 590E engine and it´s history in Dagenham at that time.
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Jimcdbts » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:08 am

In 1990 we took delivery of the last 2726T engines we could get as dagenham stopped production of 2700 range diesels for trucks and industry. Over the years we had all different models all now only as diesels. 2701E ,2701C,2711E ,2712E ,2722 , 2706E all 4 cyl, 2703E,2703C,2704C, 2704E, 2704ET,2708E,2709E ,2713E,2714E,2715E ,2723,2725,2726T, 2726TG,2726TM and 2728T all 6 cyl.Most likely all these variations may be found in the Fordson major as a conversion either as 4 or 6 cylinders.and be used in all types of Ford based tractors .A turbocharged version of the 590E was also avialable.
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Grani » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:29 am

At my workplace, we have a sprinkler fire pump powered by a Ford 2725 that has an automatic start in a situation of both fire and blackout. It has less than 100h on the hourmeter. :cry:
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Dandy Dave » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:13 am

Grani, Tell them it is old, obsolete, and hard to get parts for. Tell them it is time to up grade and you will be glad to haul the old unit away. :wink: Dandy Dave!
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Grani » Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:01 pm

Dandy Dave wrote:Grani, Tell them it is old, obsolete, and hard to get parts for. Tell them it is time to up grade and you will be glad to haul the old unit away. :wink: Dandy Dave!

Yes I have had dreams about that, but they aren´t that stupid. :scratchhead:
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby Jimcdbts » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:32 am

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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby fordgek » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:31 pm

Hello, i have County 1124 how can i found out where enginenumber is standing? By the fuelinjectionpump? And how i can found out wich type engine i have in the my County 1124. It must be a 2704/2714. But where can i found that. Greetings Jans
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby d.andersen » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:22 pm

I wonder about something - the list describe the 510 as a
Thames trader engine , I have a 510 engine from a combine
which I then will believe is a industrial engine .
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby county654 » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:16 am

Hy Anderson,
your engine could be the same like one I have bought this year.
onthe last post of this thread
:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=477&start=375

you find a good xplanation on the 510 prefix.
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby d.andersen » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:29 pm

Well I found this some years ago,which explains the story, but still wonder why the is refered as lorry engine, when often used in combines ..etc.





http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/diese ... eadid=2173
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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby 1962 model » Sun Sep 07, 2014 8:11 am

Jimcdbts wrote:I will need to try and edit it a bit as it was in the form of a table but when i posted it the borders didn`t cross over and the list is a wee bit jumbled. up .Have had this info for over 25 years as i used work for a local engineering company where we used loads of Ford engines from our local power products dealer to install in all types of industrial plant and equipment .During My time it was mostly 2720 and BSD series engines but i do have all the books still and all the design installation books for the engines. Ford Power Products were great as you could build an installation and order up any parts within ford parts division as an OEM customer.We used parts from tractors, D series and cargo trucks , R series buses and even transits we even used axles from the FW60,s all ordered through the Ford Power Products division.


Thanks for all that facinating information,
Here is a bit more information for you: I have a Thames Trader engine here which cost me $50 and a 800km return trip, it carries a cast date 5 A 8 ( Jan 1965 )
This was a transition engine just before they changed to the full K series engine, it has the K series sump but still has the earlier cam, waterpump and late Super Major type injection pump arrangement.
I have struggled to find any information about the engine prefix which is 660EE 13235, as this is a transition model engine carried over into the K series truck it may be helpful fill some gaps in your records, perhaps they only made these for a couple of months, I know 1966 has the upgraded engine.
From industrail parts books of the 1965 era it appears to still be a wet liner engine in a K series, but I don't want to strip it as I want to try to use it as is in a E 27 N 6cyl tractor conversion using a E 1 A gearbox, though some work will be required as it was laying on the ground since about 1980, I have patched up an injection pump for it, and it still turns over fine.

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Re: Fordson Industrial Engine serial Numbers

Postby mechman » Sun Sep 14, 2014 3:44 pm

Hi Jimcdbts
I had look at your ID tables but coudnt ID mine its up and running now but still its good to have info.
I entered a post in august under Parts swap forum,Topics Ford 4D engine with all the info I could glean from engine casting numbers ETC just wondering if you could pin it down,It was part of a welding plant.
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