My name is Bram. I come from Holland and I also have a P6.
I bought it in August 2010. It's complete and made in Dagenham in 1951.
The tractor is at the moment in pieces and I hope that I can paint it and put it in a couple of weeks together,so the tractor is ready when the summer begins.
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Hello Henk
I am located in Axel (zeeuws vlaanderen). Here are a lot of people with a e27n .
The most are benzine,there are 2 other people with a p6 that i know here.
I have foto `s on my computer ,but i dont now how to put it on the forum.
when i know i put it on .
You have to put your pictures on a site album.nl or an other. Load it up medium size.
Than copy the url from properties and past them between img tags.
Now in Dutch,
Eerst je foto’s uploaden naar een foto site zoals bv album.nl. Maar er zijn ook andere. Met een resize programma eerst je foto’s medium size maken vanwege de ruimte in het forum. Dan je foto oproepen en via eigenschappen de url kopiëren. Deze plakken tussen (img) en (/img) maar dan rechthoekige haakjes.
She really looks good - all credit to you and I'm sure she sounds the same, lovely. I have to say you restored your P6 a lot quicker than I did and I haven't even painted mine!
Do you have the casting codes for the gear box and rear axle usually to be found on the near side below and to the rear of the gear lever housing and on the same side below and to the front of the break drum respectively - but not always, they do move about a bit! Actually I have a tractor without one of them, at least I've not been able to find it yet. They will consist of a letter 1 or 2 numbers and another letter, they are embossed. If you can find them it would be interesting to know what they are. Also there should be a brass plate on the same side on the front of the lower dash which gives the tractor's serial number and gearbox details?
Hello,
I found a lot of numbers on it when there was no paint on it.
I will look this weekend if I can find them.
You can see us the first time we were on a meeting on the following You-Tube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ds-pJs4 ... rofilepage
Hello Moretoot,
I found a lot of numbers (more than 10).
On the brass plate is standing engine no 1186036 Type 77 High speed top gear special ratio (intermediate gears) made in Dagenham.
On the right site of the gear lever I found B6S.
Than I found on the same site 76B and 0440125 and also a few times Fordson e27n.
I hope you can do something with the information.
Best regards,
Bram
Great work on your tractor it looks fantastic. I am green with envy I would love to have a 7.7 high top special low gear gear box in mine. You have the best of both worlds, high road speed for road runs and extra low gear for extra pulling power on the plough. Mind you I only have a 4.3 low speed box in mine and that is scary enough at full speed, but I am sure it is way too slow for any road runs.
According to my serial number list 1186036 would be early 1951, I have 1951 starting at 1180610 and ending at 1216574. B6S represents a date of February 6th 1951, so that ties in well with the serial number. The 76B and 0440125 must just be casting numbers as far as I can figure out.
Regards, Frank.
Real tractors don't need tin work to be beautiful.
Hi Bram,
Frank is spot on with his dating, the reason I asked was because your radiator grill is the early type with wide bars the narrow bared grill, introduced for the diesel became standard fitment in 1949. Yours has probably like many others been replaced they are not very strong.
Just as a matter of interest are the core plugs sometimes called frost plugs on your engine knock in type or screw in ones. The latter either have two holes or an hexagonal hole for an allen key?
Regards
Moretoot
Hi moretoot,
I know that the grill is the wrong type,but I like this one more, I have also a good one [imitation] so maybe in the future?
The frost plugs on this engine are knock in.
Regards Bram
Hi Bram,
I'm not criticising, I personally also like the earlier grill better and frankly don't believe it restricted the air flow to any meaningful extent, I was just interested. My philosophy is that every owner must do just as they like with their own tractor. That of course includes me and I know how I like mine!
The core plugs are interesting I think she has probably had a reconditioned engine fitted as I don't believe the knock in ones appeared in castings before the mid to late '50's, but that is all part of the tractors 'provenance' at least that's what an antique dealer would say. It is just worth noting because some people use knock in core plugs as proof "in their eyes" that the tractor in question is a later conversion. I have never believed this to be an infallible test and it is nice to have evidence that it is not.
Thank you you've quite made my day.
Regards
Moretoot
The type of Grille did make a difference on the P6. The main problem was Perkins Specifications for the P6 was a Fan of 17 inches. Because of space constrictions, the E27N was shortened to 14 inches, and that's where all the problems began. The problem usually arose when the tractor was on belt work or stationary. I can remember seeing P6's on pumping duties and they used to remove the Grille and Shutters. Then towards the end of production the Belt Pulley was changed to a smaller unit.
I was down at our local Perkins Dealer last year and he let me go through a box of N.O.S. Parts. I found 2 new Frost Plugs, Brass with the 2 pin holes. We call them Welch Plugs in Australia.
Hi Barry M,
That's interesting, I hadn't really thought about the reduction in fan size, but of course you're quite right. However in GB or Holland the ambient temperature isn't often hot enough for that to matter too much - probably also why in Australia you fitted pressurised cooling systems to them. It just shows that you learn something everyday and that it's good to talk!
Thank you
Moretoot
Dandy Dave!
I would love to have a 7.7 high top special low gear gear box in mine. You have the best of both worlds, high road speed for road runs and extra low gear for extra pulling power on the plough. Mind you I only have a 4.3 low speed box in mine and that is scary enough at full speed, but I am sure it is way too slow for any road runs.