Australian E 27N's

[moretoot]

Hi,

E27N's imported into Australia were fitted with Spark Arrestors. Several have now been brought back to the UK, I have one and I was chatting to the owner of another who would like to fit one to his tractor instead of the UK standard upright exhaust. I wondered if any of our Australian cousins could provide details / drawing / maker of the arrestor - in fact anything useful?

Another question Australian tractors appear to have been fitted with a pressurised cooling system. The standard UK calorimeter was replaced by a 'gauge' at least that seems to be the case with my tractor and others I have looked at. Would someone be kind enough to post a picture of their gauge so that I can be sure that the 'remains' I have are correct before I spend good money having it restored. (That part of a restoration is way outside my scope).

Regards

Pat

[R W]

Re; Spark Arrester, Appears later ones may have been.
" Pressure Cap, My father purchased an E27N new in early 1949 Was not fitted with one.
Next door purchased one around November the same year it had one fitted.
Email Your Postal Address and I will send some copies of ads showing the spark arrester.

[moretoot]

Hi RW,

Thanks I have sent my address to your email address - I hope. If you don't get I will post it on the forum.

Your statement about pressurised cooling systems is interesting everyone I have spoken to thinks all Australian tractors were so fitted but this is obviously not so. I wonder if the modification was done at Dagenham or when the tractors arrived in Australia; does anyone know?

Also what was the position regarding radiator shutters some Australian tractors that I've seen have them and some don't. Anyone know the answer to this?

Best regards

Pat

[R W]

Have not recieved your address as yet.
1949 E27N had a curtain have seen later models fitted with shutters.

[BarryM]

Moretoot,

Have attached a photo of E27N Temperature Gauge.



Just a slight 'edit', hope you don't mind - One gauge is more than enough - Mike

[Dandy Dave]

Say, Looks like you have plenty of Spares! ... bet you could sell a few. Dandy Dave!

[moretoot]

Hi Barry M,
Got two problems and it looks as if you could be the man to sort them?
1. I sent RW my address by clicking the "PM" button but he has not received it - what have I done wrong?
2. Thank you for the 'photo of the temperature gauge, it looks right as the remains I have has exactly the same bezel. How do I print a picture of it so I can get mine restored?
Thanks to you both for your help. I think this is a great forum

Regards

Pat

[Jerry Coles]

Found this UK answer to pressurised cooling on an E27N! The Bungee Cord looks a little tired - maybe straining to hold the pressure!

Taken at the great Dorset Steam Fair 2011.
Jerry
Bath
UK

[1962 model]

Have not recieved your address as yet.
1949 E27N had a curtain have seen later models fitted with shutters.

Hello,
it is my understanding that all E27N, New Majors & Majors had shutters till the change of engine in 1958,
They are not listed in the 1958 and later parts books used in Australia.
No shutters on 1958 & 9 Majors, Power Majors or Super Majors.

There was a real risk of destroying your engine here, if you forget to open the shutters once warmed up.

Mike

[1962 model]

Here is a picture of a Spark arrester I picked up from a farm dump a couple of months ago with the intention of making one myself for my Power Major.

This one is rusted and the internal construction can be seen, and two types of welding techniques.



Let me know if you need dimentions,

Mike

[Dandy Dave]

Is the brass cap to clean out carbon and rust build up? Dandy Dave!

[BarryM]

Dandy Dave,

The Brass Cap is for cleaning out the soot. The way to do it was:-
1. Undo Brass Cap.
2. Start engine.
3. Block outlet pipe.
4. Stand back and watch the soot fly out.

[Dandy Dave]

As I suspected. That style of spark arrestor must have been very efficient at doing its job if it had to be cleaned on occasion. Thanks Barry, Dandy Dave!

[moretoot]

Hi Mike,
Dimensions would be good - I take it the photo is the bottom bit, do you have one of the rest of it?
Regards
Pat

[1962 model]

Hello Pat,
sorry can't help with the bottom bit very easily as our computers speak a different language and it is getting lost in the translation, the original picture is full size and some people can see it in full size I believe?

I will have another try with the dimentions but doubt that you will be able to see it.



Oh by the way I have never cleaned out my dads one or ever heard of anyone doing this, so it can't be much of a problem.

Mike

Most of the information is there

Bits missing

2" diameter

2" + 1/2" overlap

All welds oxy welded except where stated,

Arrow indicating mig weld,
Arrow indictaing that the tubing is 6 1/2" to 7" long

Also the larger tubing itself is fabricated with an oxy welded seam, but these days it would probably possible to purchase 6" exhaust tubing.

hope that is all that is missing,
Mike

[moretoot]

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the drawing only the left half is visible on my machine, perhaps it's because it's an Apple. I was hoping to try to see it on my wife's PC but that is having a tantrum and won't talk to me. Her PC not my wife!
Sorry to have been so long getting back. If I can't see it on hers I will come back to you.
Regards
Moretoot (Pat)
(I'm new to the forum and getting confused - must get a grip!)

[JC]

Mike and Pat,
The reason that part of the pictures are missing is because they are too big. They should be re sized to no more than 800 pixels in width. If they are too wide, the forum software crops them to the right width. Most photo hosting sites have an image re sizer that you can use before you post your pics.

Here's what the diagram looks like at 800 pixels wide.