Super Major -62

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Super Major -62

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Bought this yesterday, while I was buying new front tires to my Dexta.. It was so cheap that I had to buy it :lol:

Engine has some problem and needs attention. Maybe the complete rebuild would be the best choice.. Previous owner already repaired the lifting hydraulics, rear axle sealings and brakes. Also new starting motor and front tyres seems to be installed.

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Re: Super Major -63 (engine rebuild?)

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Hard to say. You don't give any specifics on how the engine runs, if at all. And by the way, how good of a deal was it?

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Re: Super Major -63 (engine rebuild?)

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Previous owner told that engine runs but there was a big "klonk" and the he turned the engine off. I paid 700€ and there comes also a drag? with it. Or how do You call one like this?

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Usually You have to pay 1500€ or more for a project Major here in Finland, without front loader or other things. Those snow chains are also at least worth of 300€ :)
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Re: Super Major -63 (engine rebuild)

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Nice Find. :D Try to determine where the clunk came from. Sometimes it is not what one may think. Pull the valve cover first and see if a valve dropped in a cylinder. This happend to a Super that a friend of mine owned several years ago. Dandy Dave!
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Re: Super Major -63 (engine rebuild)

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Yesterday we moved the Major to a better position for transport with my friend. Today we will pick it up :)

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I also tried to check the serial number, and this is what I found: 08B769000.. Is that correct? What is the exact year model?
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Re: Super Major -63 (engine rebuild)

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Hi - your serial number indicates August 1962 making the engine at least a standard orange wheel super major and not a new performance type :? But still looks a great tractor ! :beer:
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Ok, thanks for fast respond. What a pity :? It is strange, because the grey paint seems to be original? Even under the grey paint you can't see any orange.. And in the papers this is -63. Maybe sold in Finland in 1963..
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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That's fine, yeh look quite original - have you any casting codes off the gearbox or rear axel ?! They could be 63 and the engine could be a replacement ?! :?
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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a picture of the back end and one of the hydraulic top cover will tell us if its a new performance

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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I have to check the casting codes and take some pics of the hydraulics..

Yesterday we picked up Major, and today disassembled it for 2,5 hours.. Only one piston/liner damaged..

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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try Emmark uk for parts. :wink:

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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There aren't any prices mentioned :?
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Wow, that's definitely a clunk you don't want to hear! But I'm glad that it's only 1 cylinder/piston. Have you tried Agriline for parts?

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Just goes to show how strong the con rods are on the Major. Any sign of damage to the con rod in question?

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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You have to measure if the conrod is bend or twisted, or else it will smash the engine Again :cry:
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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I didn't measure/inspect the condod yet, but it looked ok. Bearings were also like a new.

I think I will order parts from Agriline :)
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Broadspeed wrote:I didn't measure/inspect the condod yet, but it looked ok. Bearings were also like a new.

I think I will order parts from Agriline :)
Sorry to say but dont think you can see if its bend or twisted 0.5mm without correct measuring :wink:
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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fnoller wrote:
Broadspeed wrote:I didn't measure/inspect the condod yet, but it looked ok. Bearings were also like a new.

I think I will order parts from Agriline :)
Sorry to say but dont think you can see if its bend or twisted 0.5mm without correct measuring :wink:
I don't think it's a problem.. I am working on a company which repairs marine diesel engines, small and big ones :wink: So I can use proper workshop for engine works :)
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Yes, have that rod checked! And doing a little digging as to the root cause of the failure wouldn’t be a bad Idea as well.
When I first looked at your damage my first thought was “hydraulic shock”. If one attempts to start a engine that has water in the cylinder, the result from the piston slamming up and stopping dead when there is nowhere for the water to go can bend rods, crack heads, blow out head gaskets, and crack cylinders……. and I don’t see a raincap on the exhaust pipe. You may want to send the head along as well to have it magnafluxed.

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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BearCreek Majors wrote:Yes, have that rod checked! And doing a little digging as to the root cause of the failure wouldn’t be a bad Idea as well.
When I first looked at your damage my first thought was “hydraulic shock”. If one attempts to start a engine that has water in the cylinder, the result from the piston slamming up and stopping dead when there is nowhere for the water to go can bend rods, crack heads, blow out head gaskets, and crack cylinders……. and I don’t see a raincap on the exhaust pipe. You may want to send the head along as well to have it magnafluxed.

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Totally Agree. You have some very serious damage. Also, check for proper protution of the tops of all the sleeves. The sleeve may have been working up and down without proper shimming. Dandy Dave!
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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That damage has occurred during the work. Could it be normal piston seizure caused by excess wear and too much dirt in combustion chamber?

I have also magnaflux in my use :)
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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The sleeve could have been cracked for a while before it had the “major failure”, but this is still just a guess, have your friends at the engine shop look it over. Having an idea what caused the failure is much better than having to make the same repairs a second time.

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Yes, have to do some inspection :)

Is that overhaul kit from Agriline good quality?
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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Couple of questions. Is that a perforation in the liner wall along the line of the rusty 'tidemark'? Had the tractor been standing for a while before the incident happened?

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Re: Super Major -62 (engine rebuild)

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Will post more pics maybe today.. I am going to dismantle rest of the engine, if have enough time :)

Now I looked at the paint at at the wheels.. You can see orange at the back side of the wheels.. So maybe those have been sandblasted only on the outside and then painted with grey.. So this is normal Super Major :oops:
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