Super Major Engine rebuild
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- True Blue
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Hi Chaps, I have now got the engine out, crank out and cam shaft out but i still cannot get the oil pump out. could it just be really stuck in there or am i missing something??
Will upload some more pictures tomorrow when i have abit more spare time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Steve
Will upload some more pictures tomorrow when i have abit more spare time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Steve
Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
if the bolts are out and the shafts out and the pipe is off, just pull.
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Steve
The pump is a snug fit in the housing. Once the locating bolts are out, just apply a little leverage. The angled teeth on the intermeshing cogs of the pump and auxiliary shaft allow the pump to come out and go back in freely, so don't worry about that.
Prime the new pump with your oil can and spin the drive cog before you fit it.
Adrian
The pump is a snug fit in the housing. Once the locating bolts are out, just apply a little leverage. The angled teeth on the intermeshing cogs of the pump and auxiliary shaft allow the pump to come out and go back in freely, so don't worry about that.
Prime the new pump with your oil can and spin the drive cog before you fit it.
Adrian
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Have managed to get the oil pump out with some pulling, just finished steam cleaning the block.
Just got to send the crank off to have a regrind and wait for the head to come back.
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Just got to send the crank off to have a regrind and wait for the head to come back.
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Where did you buy your new oil pump? I always like to use a new oil pump when I rebuild an engine, but I wonder which is better, a 50 year old Fordson or a brand-new one made in India?
Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
An old one, at least it was probably made in uk lol
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Yep. That's what I was thinking.
Brian said they used to test them by trying to pump kerosene with them while turning them by hand.
Brian said they used to test them by trying to pump kerosene with them while turning them by hand.
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Hi Steve
Your work is absolutely spot on. Take two of these out of petty cash! Oh and one of these!
Still got a big problem with your workshop though!
Loving the photos. Can't wait for the next installment.
Best
Adrian
Your work is absolutely spot on. Take two of these out of petty cash! Oh and one of these!
Still got a big problem with your workshop though!
Loving the photos. Can't wait for the next installment.
Best
Adrian
Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Very nice work- but I must ask - anyone on here reply please but my block is in exactly the same state but I've put the liners in today - I can't get the injector pump drive shaft out I've got the oil pump out but how do I remove the injector pump drive shaft ?! As I want to fit new bearings -
1963 fordson new performance super major. And An array or fordson parts and pieces !
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
mjg1705
Take off the injector pump, take the coupler off of the shaft, remove the tach drive gear, take the timing cover and gear off, then tap it out the front with a hammer and drift.
Take off the injector pump, take the coupler off of the shaft, remove the tach drive gear, take the timing cover and gear off, then tap it out the front with a hammer and drift.
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Just as JC says. Front mounting plate needs to come off too.
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Thanks Adrian! I feel like im getting somewhere now! cant wait to hear her fire up for the first time! Just out of interest where did you buy your oil pump from?? Agriline??
Oh and on the workshop i must tell you that its not actually my own workshop but where i work 9 - 5 and they just let me use it after hours
Also dropped my paperwork in to my Local DVLA office Yesterday to apply for an age related plate for the old girl, So fingers crossed it should all go through
Cheers
Steve
Oh and on the workshop i must tell you that its not actually my own workshop but where i work 9 - 5 and they just let me use it after hours
Also dropped my paperwork in to my Local DVLA office Yesterday to apply for an age related plate for the old girl, So fingers crossed it should all go through
Cheers
Steve
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Okay so im at the stage where im ready to install my new liners, but im still alittle confussed as to where i should be taking the meassurement for the protusion on the liner???
Has anyone got a picture please?? I can see in the picture from the fordson repair manual that they are using a dial indicator on the lower part of the step, as im going to use feeler gauges and a metal ruler should i put the ruler in the same possision and measure the cap beneath the rule???
Cheers
Steve
Has anyone got a picture please?? I can see in the picture from the fordson repair manual that they are using a dial indicator on the lower part of the step, as im going to use feeler gauges and a metal ruler should i put the ruler in the same possision and measure the cap beneath the rule???
Cheers
Steve
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Lovely shiny new Cylinder liners fitted! Should the shoulder on the new liner be sitting on the shoulder of the cylinder block??
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Hi Steve
I fitted a Vapormatic oil pump to the NP Super. Got it from Silver Fox tractor spares. Pumps well and holds 45lbs per sq in when cold, drops to 42 after a hard day's ploughing.
Adrian
I fitted a Vapormatic oil pump to the NP Super. Got it from Silver Fox tractor spares. Pumps well and holds 45lbs per sq in when cold, drops to 42 after a hard day's ploughing.
Adrian
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
You must have accidentally posted a page from an older manual, Adrian. That looks like the old, non-spigoted sleeves. The newer ones are measured from the lower step, like this.
You need to measure them before you install the o-rings. If they aren’t right, try switching positions of sleeves in the block. You also want to try to get sleeves of the same height next to each other, instead of having a low one between two higher ones.
You need to measure them before you install the o-rings. If they aren’t right, try switching positions of sleeves in the block. You also want to try to get sleeves of the same height next to each other, instead of having a low one between two higher ones.
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Steve
Just a thought. When you've got her back together again, I'd recommend rigging up an oil gauge connected to the extra tapping point above where the oil pressure sensor sits. That way you can monitor your oil pressure precisely when you fire her up and run her in.
Adrian
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Just a thought. When you've got her back together again, I'd recommend rigging up an oil gauge connected to the extra tapping point above where the oil pressure sensor sits. That way you can monitor your oil pressure precisely when you fire her up and run her in.
Adrian
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Thanks for the correction, JC.
Best
Adrian
Best
Adrian
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Cheers guys for all your tips and advice. have got all the liners in now and they are all sitting at 0.003
I was thinking of doing exactly what you suggested with the oil pressure gauge straight into the block.
Hopefully today should get all the pistons in.
Cheers
Steve
I was thinking of doing exactly what you suggested with the oil pressure gauge straight into the block.
Hopefully today should get all the pistons in.
Cheers
Steve
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Im just trying to reassemble my pistons and conrods, but the conrod bushes supplied in the rebuild kit apear to be to small a diameter for the gudgoen pin to fit through??
Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
are they stiff or wont fit. have you measured them
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
The mk. 1 engines used a 1.25" pin. The later ones use 1.375" pins. Maybe they sent you bushings for the early pins.
scoobyjim wrote:are they stiff or wont fit. have you measured them
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
More than often than not Bushings are sent under size and need to be reamed to fit correcty with an expandable reamer. Dandy Dave!
Have a Fordsonful day Folks!
1960 Fordson Power Major
1960 Fordson Power Major
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Re: Super Major Engine rebuild
Well they just wont fit, i think im going to have to give them to my dad to take to work and machine them out abit.
Bush ID 34.5mm
Pin OD 35mm
On another note just ordered new bearings for my injection pump drive from Simplybearings.co.uk for £10 inc P&P
Bush ID 34.5mm
Pin OD 35mm
On another note just ordered new bearings for my injection pump drive from Simplybearings.co.uk for £10 inc P&P
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