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3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:29 am
by Fixersteve
So my question is, I know my NP Super will pull a 3 Furrow conventional and pick it up no problem. How would she cope with a 3 Furrow Reversable flick plough?? Im guessing its just the extra weight of the 3 furrows that will cause a problem?? Anyone tried pulling one??

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:38 pm
by Pavel
One of the many good points about the Super M are the strong chassis rails which relieves weight stresses on the engine/gearbox/transmission coupling bolts. However, added weights were needed on the front end when using a 6 bodied Ransom reversible [it's not nice having to steer by using the split brake pedals]. Turning on the headland was also hairy at any speed approaching that of walking because of the implement's swing. In use the main problem was setting the plough up so that its added weight did not cause it to have a tendency to want to bury itself. This is achieved by ensuring that the rear landside leaves a definite, but not deep, groove in the furrow bottom allowing just enough point suction for good depth control. By far the best control was found when equipping it with a rear furrow wheel.

Pavel

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:14 pm
by marcusgs
Hi.

A bit of weight on the front end and it you will be fine :wink:

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:48 pm
by AdrianNPMajor
Hi Steve

A couple of photos of my friend pulling a Ransomes 3 furrow with a NP Super. In my very limited experience a three furrow plough behind the Major is a tough option in heavy land - I got a fair amount of scrabbing with a two furrow reversible on a particularly hard and heavy field, but to be fair I didn't have my front weights on at the time. As Brian points out on this site, they make one heck of a difference and are far more effective than rear wheel weights. Archie has four 1000 series on the front here (cheaper and easier to find than Enfo weights). He made a bracket up to carry them. It was such a good design that I copied it! :lol: With a three furrow reversible I'd go for more than the four weights - six would be ideal if you can lay your hands on them. With the front well and truly pulled down, and the plough in the ground at the rear, the drive wheels are pulled into traction.

Best

Adrian :thumbs:

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Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:53 pm
by AdrianNPMajor
With the front of the tractor pulled down, the draft control also gets to work properly, raising and lowering the plough as necessary, and not the nose of the tractor, which kept happening to me until I got my front weights.

Best

Adrian :thumbs:

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:54 am
by ford5000y
Hang on, that NP Super has rear rims from a 4000,isn't it? So, that means it has "38" rims :D

Out there, in England, you can see fordsons with rear rims from a 4000. Here, in the Philippines, you can see a 4000 with fordson "38" rims!!!! :lol:

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:08 pm
by AdrianNPMajor
Here's a photo of my NP Super with Ransomes TSR 102 attacched. As you can see, the front end looks a little light even with the wheel weights fitted. She reared up on the heavy land that I went off to plough, especially when I came to the wheel tracks of the combine harvester, where the soil was very compacted. The rearing up was caused by the draft control trying to lift the plough, but because it was too light the front end came up instead. The front weights solved this problem. I discovered this vital piece of info from this site - Brian explains the principle behind front weights in a separate thread. Well worth a read.

Best

Adrian :thumbs:

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Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:19 am
by tom lad
hi adrian
is that a manual trip on the 3 fr ? did the bodies clean up ?

I have a 2 fr reversible manual trip , S K H I think ,

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:13 pm
by AdrianNPMajor
Hi Tom

I took the photos of Archie's plough about three years ago, so I can't remember if it is a manual trip or hydraulic. Is it possible to trip a three furrow manually? I'm no expert on ploughs, I'm afraid. :scratchhead:

I'm sure the bodies must have shined up. They do still look very rusty in the photos, don't they?

Best

Adrian :thumbs:

Re: 3 Furrow Reversable flick Plough

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:15 am
by tom lad
i;ve not used my 2 fr, r. as much as i'd like to , but the trip mechanism did seem unreliable (at best ) talking to farmers they were happy when hydro came along :beer:

u pull a lever to trip mine when its raised on the headland turn , it seems , if there was trash /weight on the bottom set then it may not fully trip over / lock
so u have to jump off and manually turn the plough , prob fine the odd time but if its every run :buddies:

as I say not used mine enough to really comment , but its on my list .
mine has knives so that aint gonna help to keep the trash off.