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running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:26 am
by peter2
Hi,

a question to the guys in the colder parts of the word:

Is there any problem with the diesel flow running a major in very cold weather?

The blow from the cooling ventilator goes around the diesel filter and pump and gives an additional cooling. We have winter diesel here (flowing up to -22°C) but in very cold conditions there are always cars that have problems at -10°C, because the flowing air cools the filter too much.
Do I get the same problem with my major? Shall I isolate the filter from the cooling air stream? May I block the radiator with card board?

I've seen a kind of "clothing" (a tarp or so) somewhere on a picture which covers the engine from the front mask to the fenders. Is there any warming effect for the driver or only cold air from the front?

Peter

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:02 pm
by frode
No problems. I would fit an electric coolant heater (Norwegian made "Defa" is very good).

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:23 pm
by county654
Hi Peter ,
are you talking about a "Sirroco" cabine?

http://www.traktorhof.com/forum/viewtop ... o&start=15

Phot is some where in the middle of the page

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:59 pm
by BearCreek Majors
we always dump a little fuel treatment in ours to keep them from jelling up, the biggest problem is the water. early winter brings on the "just below & just above freezing" that makes everything frost up and sweat, this is guaranteed to leave a substantial amount of water in the fuel, especially if the fuel tank is mostly empty. the additive keeps this from freezing up in the fuel system.
Both the Selene and my dads major fell victim this winter before I got any additive in them. had to drag them in the shop overnight and then clean out the fuel pump bowl, get some treatment in them and then run them around for a little while to get it mixed into the system.

Pat

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:00 pm
by fenhayman
In very cold weather in the UK, 1963?, I blocked the bottom 1/3 of the radiator with cardboard. Cut the cardboard to fit,take out the chaff screens and put the cardboard in when the engine is running. The airflow will pull it close to the radiator. Watch the temperature if the engine is working hard.

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:36 pm
by peter2
Hi,
county654 wrote: are you talking about a "Sirroco" cabine?
something like that, yes. Without the roof, of course. :-) I think I can make one and fix it with a few magnets from old computer hard drives.

Water in the fuel is not a problem, I keep the tank full and temperatures in my workshop keep above 0°C. Winter in our region is not that hard, our heating is called "Rhine" here.
But I want to be prepared ...

Thanks,
Peter

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:27 pm
by henk
This is how a Sirocco looks on a Major.
Image

It works well, but your front will be warm and your back will be cold.
Even in the summer I close the shutters in front of the radiator, so it's no problem to put something in front of the radiator in the winter. Just keep checking the temp while driving.

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:45 pm
by AdrianNPMajor
Personally I like this approach. I prefer the Major without a cab - you're closer to the experience, which on a summer's day is hard to beat. Mind you, in snow and cold, you're a bit too close to the experience! :D Still don't like the idea of a full time cab though, so this easily demountable option would suit me very well. Beats an army greatcoat and gauntlets!
Best, Adrian. :thumbs:

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:33 am
by frode
BearCreek Majors wrote:we always dump a little fuel treatment in ours to keep them from jelling up, the biggest problem is the water. early winter brings on the "just below & just above freezing" that makes everything frost up and sweat, this is guaranteed to leave a substantial amount of water in the fuel, especially if the fuel tank is mostly empty. the additive keeps this from freezing up in the fuel system.
Both the Selene and my dads major fell victim this winter before I got any additive in them. had to drag them in the shop overnight and then clean out the fuel pump bowl, get some treatment in them and then run them around for a little while to get it mixed into the system.

Pat
Guaranteed to leave some water in the rear too!

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:38 pm
by county654
Found a piture from the "Old Days"

The model is the "Comfot tractor heater" 8)
Image

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:39 am
by frode
No problems without a cab, just have to dress acordingly. Here is my girlfriend with the county...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q_9ylIigMs

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:22 pm
by AdrianNPMajor
Hello Matthias
I'm really warming (sorry about the pun! :run: ) to these shrouds that channel the engine heat to the driver. They also maintain good working engine temperature in sub zero temperatures. They make a lot of sense.
Hello Frode
Thanks for posting the video. That is a cool tractor. Looks like you are never going to get snowed in. Great to see your girlfriend getting to grips with the Ford. I have taught my daughter to drive the Major. She loves it.
Best, Adrian. :thumbs:

Re: running a major in cold weather

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 2:46 pm
by BearCreek Majors
Matthias, that comfort heat brings back a lot of memories. when I was working on the neighbors farm as a kid they had a JD 3010 with an almost identical unit, thankfully this one had a simple metal frame with a plastic windshield attached as we used it for spreading manure in the winter and had to run down the side road a half a mile sometimes. that tarp cab and plastic windshield was the only thing keeping me from freezing my ass off!

Pat