PTO question

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county654
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PTO question

Post by county654 »

Hallo,
I am going to rebulid a New Performance I bought without a pto shaft.
There cold be two major problems: I probably will not be able to find a NP typ shaft, bearing and attatchment plate here in Germany. Fordson breakers are not existing :(
Second, the tractor has a Selene type gearbox for the 4wd installed. So the shaft hast to be about 2 inches longer.

Is there a possibility to take the Super Major pto, including raised pto off my other tractor to use it on the NP?
Regards Matthias

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AdrianNPMajor
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Re: PTO question

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Hello Matthias
They changed the gearing of the NP Super, both travel gears and the PTO gearing. The cog on the hydraulic pump and the cog that it mates with on the PTO shaft are therefore different from the equivalent cogs on the Super. The driven cog on your NP Super hydraulic pump won't therefore mate properly with the drive cog on a Super PTO shaft. If you could locate a NP Super drive cog, you could swap it for the cog on your Super PTO shaft. There are breakers here in the UK who might be able to supply the cog in question and it's small enough to post.
Re the length of the shaft, I imagine you could cut and join an extra section to get the required length.
Best, Adrian. :thumbs:

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Re: PTO question

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Thank you Adrian,

how about the front part of the pto shaft, will it fit properly into the pto dropbox?
Regards Matthias

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Re: PTO question

Post by AdrianNPMajor »

Hello Matthias
Here are a couple of photos that may be helpful.
I can't see any reason why the setup would be different on the Selene NP Super, so, yes, the front end of the PTO shaft, a splined female coupling, will mate with the splined male coupling in the PTO housing slung under the gearbox (please see second photo).
Best, Adrian. :thumbs:
ps Photos seem to be cropped on my screen. :scratchhead: Hope they are fully visible on yours. :D

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Re: PTO question

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Thank you Adrian,
the pics seem to be ok, I think I know how I can replace the pto :beer:
Regards Matthias

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Re: PTO question

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Good luck Matthias. Any chance of some photos? Would be great to see your Majors and what you use them for. Would you say the Major is a rare tractor in Germany?
Best, Adrian. :thumbs:

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Re: PTO question

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I have a 1969 5000 series diesel tractor. The PTO shaft continues to drift (keeps turning slowly) even with the PTO disengaged. How do I adjust the PTO brake?

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Re: PTO question

Post by Brian »

Bill,

You cannot adjust the brake on that model, pto turning was a pretty common problem and was not solved until the introduction of a band brake system and different hub on later tractors. If you can stop the PTO by applying pressure on it with a piece of wood it is OK, if you cannot stop it however the plates are warped in the clutch and you will need to remove the lift, and if you have Dual Power, split the tractor at the rea section to get the clutch pack out.
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Re: PTO question

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there is an extension on the pto-shaft to make it longer. inside/outside spline. You use an orginial NP shaft. I guess you could use the extension from an older tractor to make it work. I have a shaft for you, but you will need to replace the bearing and seal.
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