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gearbox oil - level

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:16 pm
by mathias1
I was looking to clean out the oil of the gearbox tomorrow. I dismantled the pulley and found the oil level to be low. Where can I find the needed level mark, as there's no dipstick for the gearbox? What's the best way to have a good view on the gearbox?

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:51 pm
by mathias1
should i fill it up to see if it's leaking to the back? I have the back empy now.

thanks!

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:41 pm
by woodcutter
the level for gearbox is at the filler plug near clutch pedal and dipstick above clutch pedal for back end if this is any help

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:12 pm
by mathias1
woodcutter wrote:the level for gearbox is at the filler plug near clutch pedal and dipstick above clutch pedal for back end if this is any help
thanks. I found it covered under a lot of dirt.

for future references:
Here's a picture:
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As I only drained 8L of oil, I was a little afraid the have damaged bearings:

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same for the front side:
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Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:21 pm
by Emiel
Hi Mathias,

As long as there is oil in, it will work usually. These boxes are farmer proof.

Rgds
Emiel

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:44 am
by county654
Hallo Matthias,
you are right, it looks like some rollers are missing in the bearing. I have the same with one of my Majors sitting in the barn for almost two years. :oops:

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:14 am
by mathias1
Is there any need for an urgent splitting right now? I don't want to have damage on the gears etc...
I've read some previous posts by Adrian concerning these bearings, where he suggests to split the tractor and replace them.

The lower seal of the PTO shaft is alright, as I took out the PTO axle without leaking anything. I have no idea on the upper seal, as the oil level was really low.
thanks for the advice!

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:05 am
by AdrianNPMajor
I'm afraid the cages of both bearings have broken up. You'll find the debris in the bottom of the gearbox.
The gearbox will have to be removed and dismantled.
It makes sense to replace both seals at the same time.
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I have also been pondering on your broken rear axle casting. Your hydraulics will never work whilst the feed and return pipes are not held in position. If welding doesn't work, the only thought I have had so far is to find some way of creating a bracket out of steel and anchor it to the internal bull pinion housing, which has two tapped holes available on top of it.
Not sure if this would work.
Best, Adrian. :thumbs:

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:10 pm
by Emiel
Hi,

Looking to the photo's again I see I was wrong. Your bearings are defect and need to be replaced.

Please think about what to do. Replacing bearins means automatically replacing oil seals.

The best solution for your lift is to replace the rear axle casting. From a financial view it might be better to find a tractor with a broken engine and make an ASP.

Rgds

Emiel

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:14 pm
by mathias1
Ok,

thanks for the input guys.
I will try to do this job in August. I guess I need to split between rear-axle and gearbox?
Are these sealings easy to find on Agriline and others?
What are the prices for the bearings approximately?

thanks a lot!

Re: gearbox oil - level

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:09 pm
by county654
The larger rear bearing is pretty expensiv, I think it was round about 150€ , but I am not sure.
Look for a replacement rea rend. In Belgium it should be no Problem to find them.