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David in Wales · Post by **David in Wales** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:22 am

Post by **Brian** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:28 am

Dexta fitted with a M-F 35 Perkins engine or a new short block unit. A BITSA!

RossM · Post by **RossM** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:53 pm

Isn't that the 23C Diesel from a 4cyl MF35. Was the 4cyl a perkins motor? I thought it was a Standard built engine.

Jerry Coles · Post by **Jerry Coles** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:00 pm

I can see it's got heaters for each cylinder. Did Perkins match the rear flange on their P3's during it's development to the 23C block originally so that it could replace what was a poor starter with a better engine?
I cant see any adaptors and what happened to the exhaust hole in the bonnet? Was it a petrol originally?
Regards
Jerry

Bensdexta · Post by **Bensdexta** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:53 pm

Jerry Coles wrote:I can see it's got heaters for each cylinder. Did Perkins match the rear flange on their P3's during it's development to the 23C block originally so that it could replace what was a poor starter with a better engine?
I cant see any adaptors and what happened to the exhaust hole in the bonnet? Was it a petrol originally?

Is there not an adapter plate between engine and bellhousing?
All the best,

jambug123 · Post by **jambug123** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:11 pm

it looks like a standard 23c diesel with a cold climate head

regards
James

The Swanndri Guy · Post by **The Swanndri Guy** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:59 am

Looks like its got an adapter plate between the engine and the clutch housing thats slightly different to the standard Fordson plate,this can clearly be seen in the picture with the starter motor.Have they also repositioned the hand brake on this tractor or what is the lever for by the brake pedels? But what I would find out is this,when you look at the Ford cast/specification but Perkins design/assembled engine in a Dexta/Super Dexta , it all looks very "Plan B"(If all else fails have a Plan B!), then what was "Plan A"?Was there another engine originally designed for the Dexta?Was there ever a 3 cylinder Major motor considered and rejected?Being somewhat younger than my Super Dexta , is there any one out there that was around when the Dexta was being designed that can tell us about the Dextas design process and what options were considered but rejected.(ie engine options if any.)Cheers TSG

Post by **Brian** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:30 am

After making a right fool of myself by identifying that engine as a Perkins, I am having another go. I don't think its a Standard. I have a Standard diesel on my scrap heap at the moment and the injection pump drive is via the timing cover.

On the engine in David's picture, it looks like it drives from a slew gear on the camshaft where a distributor drive would be.

Therefore I am going to suggest it comes from the same stable as the Dexta but from the US, and is a Ford '00 series engine or an industrial unit based on te same engine.

Emiel · Post by **Emiel** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:33 pm

Hi,

I do not have an idea about what it is, but I have the following thoughts:
- The oil filler looks quite Ferguson/Standard engine
-The fuel pump looks very CAV I think
-American Fords have injection pumps on right hand side of tractor, for as far as I know, and exhaust on left hand side.

Where do diesel fergies have the starter? On the right hand side usually?

Can you give some more clue about this tractor David?

Best regards

Emiel

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