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Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:14 am
by Bensdexta
I have bought some front wheels weights for my Dexta.

What bolts should be used to hold them to the wheels? Are they just suitably sized 'Coach Bolts', with the square heads?

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:52 pm
by Chris Ivin
I would suggest getting some decent high tensile bolts with Nyloc nuts. You don't want them coming loose on the road.

I have a set of weights for mine but have found that they make the steering vibrate more when on the road, so I take them off when not required.

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:18 pm
by Bensdexta
Chris,
Thanks for the tip.
Have you a photo of your set up? :wink:

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:43 pm
by Chris Ivin
Hi Ben,

Not at the moment I'm afraid, they are currently stuck under the bench somewhere.

Mine are half shaped weights rather than the full circular weights which were made for the Dexta, I think mine were made for the smaller 000 series machines. They are fixed by two bolts each using the same fixing holes in the wheel rims as for older full size weights.

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:06 pm
by Bensdexta
Chris Ivin wrote:Mine are half shaped weights rather than the full circular weights which were made for the Dexta, I think mine were made for the smaller 000 series machines. They are fixed by two bolts each using the same fixing holes in the wheel rims as for older full size weights.
Same as mine! I wonder if the full sized ones are any better balanced?

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:41 pm
by Chris Ivin
I would guess that the full round weights would be more stable. The only downside is having to take the wheel off to fit them.

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:04 am
by Jstaley
Does anyone know where I can get the original style square headed bolts for these? They are exactly the same as a normal bolt, just have a square head instead of a hexagonal one.

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:21 am
by Bensdexta
Jstaley wrote:Does anyone know where I can get the original style square headed bolts for these? They are exactly the same as a normal bolt, just have a square head instead of a hexagonal one.
Are they not a 'coach bolt'? If so they should be widely available. :wink:

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:34 am
by Jstaley
Bensdexta wrote:
Jstaley wrote:Does anyone know where I can get the original style square headed bolts for these? They are exactly the same as a normal bolt, just have a square head instead of a hexagonal one.
Are they not a 'coach bolt'? If so they should be widely available. :wink:

No, they are what I described as above. Coach bolts are domed.

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:42 am
by Jstaley
Like this:

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Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:45 pm
by PghBill

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:13 pm
by Bensdexta
My original front wheels have four square holes 1/2" side, for the wheel weight bolts.

Surely bolts must have square shoulders not square heads, hence my suggestion of a coach bolt.

Alternatively, forget the square holes and just fit a regular 1/2" dia hex bolt?

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:16 am
by kiwimc
I have come across some front wheel weights. Pros and cons of fitting them???

This thread mentions road speed balance issues, not likely to be a problem for me.
I presume the main aim is to help hold the nose down on hilly ground, but is this at the expense of significantly heavier steering?
Interestingly of the hundreds of images online of dextas I have looked through (there's thousands out there), only three (so far) show front wheel weights - two of these on ploughing tractors.

I think I have finished all the topping for the year, so time now to fit those two new axle extensions (freshly kingpinned, bushed & bearinged).
[Bareco kingpins were larger than factory spec. Reamed bushes to match OK, but lever arms awfully tight. At least I will now have left and right (and not two right hand kingpins)].
:beer:

kiwimc

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:38 am
by Brian
My much travelled Ford front wheel weights fitted to Nuffy. They left the factory and were exported to Japan where they laid in the dealers for many years until they were returned to England in a consignment of tractors to Atkin Farm Machinery at Dereham. I had them dropped in my yard by Charles, came home one night and there was a complete set. :D A whole load of front weights and rear weights for Majors and '000 series went into the scrap bin before I could get hold of any more.

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They make no difference to the steering and are not as heavy to steer as when weights are added to the front end.

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:00 am
by kiwimc
Thanks for the reply Brian. Turns out the weights I have come across were off a major, so presumably the 7.50 x 16 inch rims. Any idea if they are different (bigger?).
A whole load of front weights and rear weights for Majors and '000 series went into the scrap bin before I could get hold of any more.
- I am a bit confused what you mean here?

Re: Front Wheel Weight Bolts

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:43 pm
by Brian
A whole two boxes of weights and two pallets came back from Japan,for tractors from 1952 to 1980 including rear weights, front slab weights and front wheel weights. I got my front weights but before I could get any others they went to the scrap man.

The front weights fit 16" wheels and the same wheels were used on some Majors, 7.50x16, some Dextas 6.00x16. The same wheels were used on M-F and,as you see, Nuffields. NP Supers could also have 6.00x19.