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My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 2:40 am
by DntBrnDPig
I inherited a 1958 Dexta from my Pap when he passed on. It sat at his old place for several years until I brought it home. I got it started at his house, loaded it up, brought it home, and took it off a trailer and she died. Well I finally got it running (must have lost its prime and it took me several battery charges and weeks of research to figure that out) and now I am wanting to give it some TLC before I start to use it.

The first is the brakes. The left rear brake pedal doesn't rise back up after being pressed. Even pressing it completely down does little to slow the tractor down. I've been researching everything and think that maybe the springs inside are shot but I wont know until I take it apart. Besides rotating the adjustment gear through the fender - are there any other adjustments I can do? Any tips on replacing springs / cleaning up the brakes?

The second is I had some oil dripping from a hole in the clutch housing that has a bent cotter pin in it or something. I was reading in the manual that there is a asbestos rope seal there - how hard is it to change that out? Is there anything I can do to prolong that seal?

Lastly, I am going to do a fluid change - at least the engine oil. I'm looking at the Shell Rotella HD Diesel 15w-40. I've been reading that some of you use the same fluids in the rest of the tractor? Is that right?

Here is a video to my Dexta after I got her running again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODvyc3L-kSQ

I've been lurking this forum for awhile. Thanks to everyone who has shared their knowledge - I have been a huge recipient of it and I appreciate it.

-DBTP

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:14 am
by sky blue
hi welcome to the site, nice looking dexta , the oil drips from where they are comming from
are the usual places that these older dextas do leak when they are getting on , they leak from pin
under cluth housing could be a gerbox seal or the rope seal from engine , to fix both the tractor needs to be split ,
do not try blocking the leaking holes
as these are there to let excess oil from gearbox or rope seal exscape and save oil damage to clutch .
back end brakes ect need a good ovehaul possible new oil seals aswell ,bit by bit youll get them sorted
and they are well worth doing . this is all part of the dexta fun :D

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 1:34 pm
by Johnmcm
Hello and welcome :D

It's not a Dexta but I highly recommend this restoration dvd. If memory serves they cover the rope seal and the brakes among a hundred other jobs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPQX6VsVjY

Regards
John

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 4:10 pm
by DntBrnDPig
sky blue wrote:do not try blocking the leaking holes
I dont want to block the holes but fix the seals that's making it leak. Splitting the tractor seems like a daunting task to me so I'm sure its going to take some courage building to do that.
sky blue wrote:back end brakes ect need a good ovehaul possible new oil seals aswell ,bit by bit youll get them sorted
and they are well worth doing . this is all part of the dexta fun :D
I have enjoyed working on it so far, although I have let some curse words out working on it.

Anyone know some places in the states to get parts for these? Specifically the brakes.

Thanks for the link Johnmcm, I've subscribed to that channel.

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2014 6:54 pm
by oldcharlie
You need to get one of these shop manuals. from Yesterdays Tractor.com Oil seals are likely leaking and on brake shoes, so no brakes. That is what was wrong with mine.
You need to get one of these shop manuals. from Yesterdays Tractor.com


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Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:25 am
by DntBrnDPig
I downloaded a shop manual pdf, is it the same thing available at fordson-dexta.de?

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:54 am
by DntBrnDPig
Also, a couple people have said now that there is probably oil seal leaking in there and the brakes are probably oily. Do you think this is the cause of the pedal not raising?

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:39 pm
by oldcharlie
No there is a cam device that spreads the shoes to brake. the shoes have likely slipped off it. When I first took mine apart did not get this back right and had that problem. went back and aligned shoes on cam thing and it fixed it. That or the shoes are backed way off. have you tried adjusting them?

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:31 am
by DntBrnDPig
I've turned it a few times but couldn't notice a difference so I stopped. Didn't know if I could break it by turning it too much. I'm going to give it a closer look when I get some time.

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:33 am
by DntBrnDPig
Did you get a chance to compare the pdf to that manual? I'm tempted to order it even if it's the same.

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:17 pm
by DntBrnDPig
I finally had some time to get the tractor in the garage and get the wheel off. I can't figure out why my left brake pedal won't return up once I press it. Here is a picture of the left brake assembly with the pedal all the way to the floor. It doesn't return it just stays like this.

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I thought that maybe the adjuster was maybe turned a little too much one way or the other, but adjusting it doesn't seem to want to raise the pedal at all.

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Here is an overall shot of the brakes..

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A few more shots at different angles.

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I thought that maybe I could adjust the linkage to get a more aggressive bite, but the cross shaft linkage is notched so it can only go on one way.

Any ideas on what I need to do?

-Pig

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:08 pm
by Brian Cox
Turn adjuster till drum is locked, then turn back just enough to allow a bit of movement on the drum. When wheel is fitted, adjust again to make sure shoes are just clearing the drum, a slight rub is okay. :beer:

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:19 pm
by Bensdexta
Are all the brake rods and cross shaft well lub'ed? :wink:

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:53 pm
by dexta roadless
I think maybe your green spring has been stretched.

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:18 am
by Jan 59
Ensure that the pivot points of the operation rod are loose. (clevis pins) If these are tight brake pedal does not come back!

Re: My Pap's Dexta

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:26 am
by DntBrnDPig
I've adjusted the brakes on both sides. The brakes work its just the pedal does not return.

For now I've wire tied the two pedals together - it kills my ability to steer using brakes but at least it's coming back up.

I will check the pivot points.

Thanks All!