More Memories
More Memories
New Memory on the Wiki. http://www.fordsontractorpages.nl/wiki/ ... tches.html
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Brian
Brian
Liked you story Brian, sounds like you were very good at what you were doing.
Have you ever changed a clutch in a Dexta by yourself, without trolleys?
I would like to see a picture of the Anglia van you are talking about, surely you have one.
Regards
Mark
Have you ever changed a clutch in a Dexta by yourself, without trolleys?
I would like to see a picture of the Anglia van you are talking about, surely you have one.
Regards
Mark
See ya
Mark
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer
Mark
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer
Mark,
I have split Dextas and Majors on some wooden pallets with a hand operated fork lift. with a loader and on wooden blocks but I would not recommend it.
I do not have any pictures of the van. In those days I did not think pictures were important and only took them when I went on holiday. Wish I had but in those days no-one though that we would be talking about Fordson tractors with the whole world.
I have split Dextas and Majors on some wooden pallets with a hand operated fork lift. with a loader and on wooden blocks but I would not recommend it.
I do not have any pictures of the van. In those days I did not think pictures were important and only took them when I went on holiday. Wish I had but in those days no-one though that we would be talking about Fordson tractors with the whole world.
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Brian
Brian
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Brian,
I remember the Anglia sedans well but I don't think I've seen a van here in Aus. I always thought it strange that small vans like Anglia's, Prefects, Morris Minors, Austin A40 etc., were used for Service Vans in servicing Industrial, Agricultural and Earthmoving industries. It happened here to a lesser extent. I think the North American members of this board would be aghast at the size of these vans that I've managed to get images of for you. Whilst these small 4 cyl vans were used in various parts of the world, the Nth American equivalents were relatively large vehicles with V8's and some straight 6's. The majority in Australia would have been 6's of Holden (GM-H) Panel Van, Ford Transits or Bedfords (with Holden 6cyl).
By-the-way, One Pound was a sizeable tip I thought. I was a 3rd year apprentice (5 year apprenticeship) in 1966 and my wage was around 7 Aus pounds which became AU$14 in Feb of 1966. A tradesman wage was approx 18 pounds. In Aust at that time a Coffee would have cost 10 cents and a hamburger 25 or 30 cents. An imperial gallon (4.5 litres) of petrol was 40 cents.
You might want to copy these images into your wiki?
Regards,
Rick
I remember the Anglia sedans well but I don't think I've seen a van here in Aus. I always thought it strange that small vans like Anglia's, Prefects, Morris Minors, Austin A40 etc., were used for Service Vans in servicing Industrial, Agricultural and Earthmoving industries. It happened here to a lesser extent. I think the North American members of this board would be aghast at the size of these vans that I've managed to get images of for you. Whilst these small 4 cyl vans were used in various parts of the world, the Nth American equivalents were relatively large vehicles with V8's and some straight 6's. The majority in Australia would have been 6's of Holden (GM-H) Panel Van, Ford Transits or Bedfords (with Holden 6cyl).
By-the-way, One Pound was a sizeable tip I thought. I was a 3rd year apprentice (5 year apprenticeship) in 1966 and my wage was around 7 Aus pounds which became AU$14 in Feb of 1966. A tradesman wage was approx 18 pounds. In Aust at that time a Coffee would have cost 10 cents and a hamburger 25 or 30 cents. An imperial gallon (4.5 litres) of petrol was 40 cents.
You might want to copy these images into your wiki?
Regards,
Rick
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Regards,
Rick
Regards,
Rick
Thanks for those Rick, I have copied them as you suggested. AAH188B was the de lux model which had chrome reaching right out to the indicators on the front grill. Your picture is of the basic model.
You were very well paid in Aus. in 1966
I nearly emigrated there in 1965, perhaps I should have. When I started my apprenticeship I got £2.10s.0d back in 1959 and by 1963 when I left that company it had risen to £5.0s.0d. Petrol was 3s.11d and 4s.6d a gallon so a lot of my wages went on running my 1934 Hillman. A mans wage was £9.0s.0d per week and of course there were taxes and National Insurance to pay out of that.
When I moved to Wrights and Ford tractors in 1963 I bought a 1953 Ford Anglia 8hp which hads featured in one of my memories, for £60.0s.0d and my wages rose to £9.0s.0d per week. After a year when they realised that I was not too bad a fitter they went up to £10.0s.0d.
For those who have not come across the British currency of pre-decimalisation days.
4 farthings = 1 penny (d)
2 Farthings = 1/2 penny
12 pennies = 1 shilling (s)
24 pennies = 1 florin
30 pennies = 2/6 pence or half a crown
4 half crowns = 10 shillings
240 pennies, 8 half crowns, 20 shillings = 1 pound
1 pound 1 shilling (£1.1s.0d) = 1 guinea ( still used today in buying ,selling and racing horses).
Don't ask why d = pence because I cannot remember.
Here endeth the history lesson
P.S.
My learned colleague (Ann) tells me that the "d" comes from the Roman denariius, a small coin.
You were very well paid in Aus. in 1966
I nearly emigrated there in 1965, perhaps I should have. When I started my apprenticeship I got £2.10s.0d back in 1959 and by 1963 when I left that company it had risen to £5.0s.0d. Petrol was 3s.11d and 4s.6d a gallon so a lot of my wages went on running my 1934 Hillman. A mans wage was £9.0s.0d per week and of course there were taxes and National Insurance to pay out of that.When I moved to Wrights and Ford tractors in 1963 I bought a 1953 Ford Anglia 8hp which hads featured in one of my memories, for £60.0s.0d and my wages rose to £9.0s.0d per week. After a year when they realised that I was not too bad a fitter they went up to £10.0s.0d.
For those who have not come across the British currency of pre-decimalisation days.
4 farthings = 1 penny (d)
2 Farthings = 1/2 penny
12 pennies = 1 shilling (s)
24 pennies = 1 florin
30 pennies = 2/6 pence or half a crown
4 half crowns = 10 shillings
240 pennies, 8 half crowns, 20 shillings = 1 pound
1 pound 1 shilling (£1.1s.0d) = 1 guinea ( still used today in buying ,selling and racing horses).
Don't ask why d = pence because I cannot remember.
Here endeth the history lesson
P.S.
My learned colleague (Ann) tells me that the "d" comes from the Roman denariius, a small coin.
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Brian
Brian
Meanderer,
Those vans are smaller than any van I've ever seen before, the pictures make Brians story easier to understand. I wouldn't mind having one of those to drive now, they had to get good gas mileage.
Also thanks for the email and course on computers. I need all the help I can get, although I was proud of myself when I got the pictures to post the first time.
Best Regards
Mark
Those vans are smaller than any van I've ever seen before, the pictures make Brians story easier to understand. I wouldn't mind having one of those to drive now, they had to get good gas mileage.
Also thanks for the email and course on computers. I need all the help I can get, although I was proud of myself when I got the pictures to post the first time.
Best Regards
Mark
See ya
Mark
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer
Mark
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer
Brian,
I have a learned colleague living with me as well. Nothing gets by them either. Thanks for taking time out of your life to give us a view of how it was done back in the 60's and 70's. The first job I ever had I was paid $10.00 a day when I was 16, and I think petrol was about 30 to 40 cent range. I can remember my Dad saying he worked for 25 cents an hour, and he also said that he hoed corn for 50 cents a day back in the depression, and he was glad to get it.
Also you cleared up a lot of confusion on British currency, every Christmas when I watch "A Christmas Carol" I always wondered how much half a crown was, that little boy took off a flying when he heard Mr. Scrooge say that.
Kind Regards
Mark
I have a learned colleague living with me as well. Nothing gets by them either. Thanks for taking time out of your life to give us a view of how it was done back in the 60's and 70's. The first job I ever had I was paid $10.00 a day when I was 16, and I think petrol was about 30 to 40 cent range. I can remember my Dad saying he worked for 25 cents an hour, and he also said that he hoed corn for 50 cents a day back in the depression, and he was glad to get it.
Also you cleared up a lot of confusion on British currency, every Christmas when I watch "A Christmas Carol" I always wondered how much half a crown was, that little boy took off a flying when he heard Mr. Scrooge say that.
Kind Regards
Mark
See ya
Mark
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer
Mark
When all else fails, get a bigger hammer
Just a few facts about the Anglia van. The ones they replaced were even smaller! They were rated at 5cwt. That was a weight carrying capacity, 20cwt = 1 ton (English) or 2240lbs.
The Anglias were rated at 7cwt which we exceeded by just putting our full tool kit in the back. Then we used to drop in the 3, 4 and 6 cylinder engines! Yet we never broke springs. Possibly because we rode on the axle bump stops.
They had an 1100 cc engine and a four speed gearbox but they were faster in third gear than they were in fourth. The engine could not cope with the load in fourth and used to load down.
We eventually moved up to bigger vans. We got the Ford Escort 8cwt!! These had a 1300 cc cross flow engine. I managed to get a complete Ford 4000 transmission,from the clutch backwards including the axles and hydraulic lift into one of these! And it was with VVF884H that I towed one of our 15cwt vans loaded with spare parts, home from Bury St Edmunds, a journey of about 50 miles. These stories are not "line shoots". They were what was expected of us in those times. You had to improvise to get the jobs done. Other dealer fitters were doing the same things and the vans that were lined up at Boreham when we met up on courses were always low down on the back springs.
This is why I have always been a lover of Ford cars. When you have hit them with the abuse that I have seen heaped on them and they have come through they must have got something right.
The Anglias were rated at 7cwt which we exceeded by just putting our full tool kit in the back. Then we used to drop in the 3, 4 and 6 cylinder engines! Yet we never broke springs. Possibly because we rode on the axle bump stops.
They had an 1100 cc engine and a four speed gearbox but they were faster in third gear than they were in fourth. The engine could not cope with the load in fourth and used to load down.
We eventually moved up to bigger vans. We got the Ford Escort 8cwt!! These had a 1300 cc cross flow engine. I managed to get a complete Ford 4000 transmission,from the clutch backwards including the axles and hydraulic lift into one of these! And it was with VVF884H that I towed one of our 15cwt vans loaded with spare parts, home from Bury St Edmunds, a journey of about 50 miles. These stories are not "line shoots". They were what was expected of us in those times. You had to improvise to get the jobs done. Other dealer fitters were doing the same things and the vans that were lined up at Boreham when we met up on courses were always low down on the back springs.
This is why I have always been a lover of Ford cars. When you have hit them with the abuse that I have seen heaped on them and they have come through they must have got something right.
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Brian
Brian