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What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:01 pm
by redgiant
Were they also a GMC axle? I'd love to own a real bona fide Roadless but I doubt I'll ever have the money :shock: Maybe I could find the same type axle and make my own. Any info would be much appreciated

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 9:40 am
by Brian
By the time the Dexta and 3000 were introduced the axle was either a Roadless one or a Schlinder. Most of the GMC based axles went on the early Roadless.

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As you can see from this picture, the Dexta and 3000 axle were of a different design.

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Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:51 pm
by redgiant
Thanks for the reply. It sure looks similar to the Schindler axles they put on MF 135s. What are the chances of finding an axle? Not great I'd say :cry:

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:32 pm
by Brian
Would think it is the same axle as the MF 135. Ratio could be different.

I would think they are nearly impossible to find and, if found, be prepared to mortgage your wife! :cry: :cry: The last one I saw being offered was £10,000 for just the axle. A complete tractor has been sold for £27,000 at auction. Both these had Roadless documentation.

There is a company in Wales that puts a Land Rover front axle on the tractors but I was not impressed with the workmanship.

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:31 pm
by BearCreek Majors
Brian, what or where is the Manuel connection? my Selene has this on the cover as well.

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:07 pm
by redgiant
Hmmmm.... okay. Well what other 4 wheel drive axles are out there if you wanted to do a conversion? Land Rover obviously, but would they be strong enough to cope with the torque loading? Any others?

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:18 am
by Brian
Pat,

Manuel was the name of the son of Signor Selene (or Signor Segre) who was converting GMC axles to fit E27Ns. Selene was importing and selling second hand tractors in Italy and when the E1A came out they needed a marketing ploy to get rid of a big stock of the older tractors. All the early Roadless had it on the dif. housing. Later axles were either of Roadless's own design or Schlindler so did not carry on the name.

About the torque/hp loading of the axle, the Land Rover axle should cope well. The power to the front axle is usually limited to around 15% of the power available by means of a torque limiter clutch. That is why a Roadless tractor is known as a Front Wheel Assist rather than a true FWD like a County which takes its front wheel drive from the bull pinions or axle shafts.

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:59 pm
by BearCreek Majors
Thanks Brian, I have always wondered what the connection was but never knew!

Pat

Happy Fathers Day to everyone!

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:50 pm
by Wolfi
I am contacting you , because I have a conversation Kit from Selene and roadless also bought parts from Selene.
So, my hope is you can help me to find manuals, official paper, assembly instructions or something like that.
Only when I have this I get official Papers in Germany.
Hopefully you can help me or do you know someone, who I can contact.
Or can you find with the below numbers something in your system?

Best regards,
Wolfgang

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 9:50 pm
by Wolfi
I am contacting you , because I have a conversation Kit from Selene and roadless also bought parts from Selene.
So, my hope is you can help me to find manuals, official paper, assembly instructions or something like that.
Only when I have this I get official Papers in Germany.
Hopefully you can help me or do you know someone, who I can contact.
Or can you find with the below numbers something in your system?

Best regards,
Wolfgang

Re: What Axle Did Roadless Use On Dexta And 3000?

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:10 pm
by Billy26F5
You'll find something in the FFCN here I think.
Sandy