Transmission stuck on parked Major

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We had hopes of taking the backhoe and loader off and having another plain tractor. There are no lift arms on it so maybe it was deleted.
There is a pto. If the owner can give me time maybe the best bet would be to see if we can get it running and moving and leaving it intact.
Unfortunately time is an issue for me and my work. I will ask the landowner if we can pull it to a spot out of his way. They are working on renovating the house and it's right in front.
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A hopeful update:
The Super was just sticking because of the shift lever. We did take the starter off and could not budge the flywheel. Guy I know lives nearby and says the Super Major has not moved in 47 years! But we are trying to get it and a second Fordson Major Diesel with a front end loader. The biggest problem is not being to move them until the weekend. My son also wants an IH 504 diesel. There are two different scrappers moving fast.Wish us luck.
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Looks like you'll be busy there, hope you get the lot.
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We got the Fordson Major Diesel home along with the IH 504 Utility. Will get pictures up soon. Hopefully getting the Super tomorrow morning.
Along with pictures I will get some serial numbers from the FMD. The air cleaner intake cap is rounded which I think is the earlier style? Our 1955 has the flat top cover.
That cover is rusted on the air cleaner pipe. Unless advised otherwise I'm just spraying it and I'll lightly tap it every few days. The hinge hood is also stuck so I'll take same approach unless air cleaner cover comes off then I can take whole hood off. Really looking forward to seeing how things look.
Motor oil looked surprisingly good, like it had recently been changed. I'm sure it was not recently changed however: the tree growing up the back was at least 30 years old. Dipstick for hydraulic is frozen so haven't checked that yet. Will be checking transmission oil shortly. Unless I have those mixed up again? Wagner loader in decent shape, but will likely be removed. Rear tires worn but hold air. Front tires need replacing.
Unfortunately the drawbar was torched off. Fenders good except near axle I'll be searching here for past topics on it. Steps are in good shape. It feels good to know this tractor did not end up in the nearby scrap yard. I hope to get it running, but if not it will stay here.
One more thing: no flywheel inspection plate.
With that said, along with hydraulic pump on front crank, what's the best way to see if it'll will turn over? Starter removal to flywheel, slowly pulling in high gear or??
Thanks for any input!
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Glad you've got them, sounds like an early one, there will be a pointer to line up with a notch in the pulley, which will be wide. Depends on what the drive is, you should probably be able to temporarily disconnect it anyway. The pics should clarify all this.
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I think I'd be inclined to put it in top gear and rock it gently backwards and forwards. If the fan belt is still intact you will hopefully see the fan twitch - first signs of life. If it does, and major engines being what they are, you could 'go cheap early' and give it a tow, you might get a surprise.
Ours had been stood twenty years, gave it a pull to see it it turned over and third turn it started. Bear in mind though, machines like this rarely get left to rot unless they're broken.
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While trying to remove the transmission filler plug it started to split. I was able to "tighten" it back up and close the crack. I will keep it covered for now but once I have a replacement in hand, what is the best way to remove this plug? I'm thinking a punch?
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Got her home safely!
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The FMD with Wagner loader:
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They look lovely, more pics would be great. If you can get one of the filler plug it will give us a better idea of what's happened, but I don't see an easy way to remove it without issues from your comments. Probably best to remove the selector plate to keep any fragments out, that should help in checking that there aren't two gears selected and free up the selecting linkage. Brakes are also worth checking, loosen them off on the pull rod then try to move it, before then adjusting them once working.
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Thanks Sandy, will get a picture of the plug in question later today. It is the transmission level plug on the left side just below the hydraulic check stick.
I'm not sure a picture will show the problem without trying to remove it again. Imagine the raised hex twisting but the outer threads not moving at all if you can. If I had kept loosening it the raised hex would have sheared right off. I plan on using a lubricant and or heat. Luckily the other plug behind the seat and the two plugs on the Super were not an issue.
Here is the FMD after getting the tree remains off. I've got pictures of the tree stuck on the leveling arm on my son's phone to post soon. Injector is the Supers.
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Here's the plug location, just an internet picture, not mine.:
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Another picture of the Super:
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Can't quite read the serial number on the Super. The main reason for seeing the plug is to see if rust or dirt are in worrying areas, but even if all that is ok I suggest removing the selector plate to keep fragments out of the gearbox as it sounds like the plug has had it. A scrapy should have a spare, I think some new ones are around but I've never though much of them. Never use heat as it will mess up any heat treatments and make the parts loose their strength. There's a lot of cleaning to do there!
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Have not had time to work on any of our new recues but here is a picture of the tree before I removed it.
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That looks quite hard to clear. Glad you've already done it.
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