Swinging draw bar installation

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Swinging draw bar installation

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Hi all,

I recently purchased a Super Dexta as a project. I have got around to getting a few extra bits for it.

A swinging drawbar being one, but I am having a little trouble installing the ‘pivot’ part of the hitch. I removed 2 fixings for what was a shaft for the break mechanism.

The new part that goes in place is a ‘post/housing’ with 4 holes and a ‘key’ part that fits into the tractor body. My issue is where does the shaft for the breaks go? It looks like it should pass through the 2 holes but would clash with the pivot pin?

I’ll hopefully figure out how to upload a few pictures.
P.S I don’t have a farming or mechanical background..Image

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Some pics will help (see this: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5024&p=53955#p53955), sounds to me like you might be in the wrong holes. The anchor bracket goes quite far forward, roughly under the hydraulic pump, the support bracket reaches further back than the PTO bearing retainer.
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Thanks for the reply Sandy.

I’ll have a few pics up tomorrow.

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I hope this works…

https://postimg.cc/gallery/GmDCD3F

If more pics are needed it’s no problem. I am a not sure what to do with the shaft that is part of the braking mechanism.

As the bracket for the pivot pin takes 4 of the fixings.

Thanks in advance.

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That's on the wrong way round. Fit the two drawbar brackets first then fit the cross shaft to the forward two holes for the support bracket (where you seem to have suitable studs already in). The cross shaft is for the handbrake, the RH side attaches directly, the LH side has a loose part to allow for steering brakes. You need to adjust a screw on the LH side to ensure both brakes come on at the same time with the handbrake lever. Pics were fine, I normally prefer using the hotlink for forums option.
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Thanks for the help Sandy, greatly appreciated.

It looks like a previous owner added a piece to the cross shaft bracket for something. You can see in the first pic, I was comparing the part to the original parts manual, so I’ll remove those and paint it, I’d like it to be as original as possible.

So my understanding is correct, The cross shaft mounts to the two studs on the picture with my hand (they would be the two holes closest to the front of the tractor) id imagine it would clash with the bar any other way?

Again thanks, as I don’t have a mechanical/farming background. I’ll post a picture when I’ve it complete and hopefully it’ll be correct.

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I see that, probably worth getting those off otherwise there might be interference with the drawbar. The anchor bracket is ahead of this cross shaft, in the first pic there's one of the support bracket studs visible, with the support bracket on then put the cross shaft on those. The pull rods to the brake levers should have an angle not unlike that of the drop arms on the steering box in the straight ahead position.
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Thanks for the expertise Sandy.

I’ll keep you posted on how I get on.

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Just giving an update on how much I got on, might help another person.

I just need to attach the handbrake sections, I hope I have it on correct Sandy 😄

https://postimg.cc/gallery/yNHLn6z

A previous owner must have re-tapped the 4 hole fixings for the drawbar plate under the rear axle. As they are 3/4 UNF thread unlike the 4 on front bracket, that are smaller UNC? I got bolts instead of studs, I thought are a better job.

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All looking good. All holes were originally 5/8" UNC, so it does seem yours were opened out, and indeed originally it would have been bolts.
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Thanks again for the help Sandy, much appreciated.

I was lucky enough to purchase the Dexta about 3 months ago. Wanted a Dexta or Major for years but never had the storage until now 😁

Currently after adding a toolbox and rear licence plate holder with original style light.

I should probably start another thread on this but I plan to service the tractor from front to back. Just want to make sure I have correct oils got (can be a hot topic apparently from reading 👀😄) I also ordered service manuals (hard to beat a physical copy in hand)

I do have a small leak on the PTO/Clutch shaft. This looks to be a seal and bush from research online. I’d like to try this myself as I don’t think it requires any speciality tools? And the infamous gear selection. (Purchased a new gear lever set but I’ll have a mechanic look a possibility adding a little weld etc. I’ve the “feel” for the gears now so it doesn’t happen so much but I’d like to improve my n it anyway.

I’ll post the bell housing serial number I’d be interested on opinions on this. It was restored about 10/15yrs ago questions on colour etc..

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All sounds good to me. I would have gone for the weld too. Serial numbers are always interesting. Remember Dexta's also have an engine number on the block.
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Just an observation I have noticed Sandy, Under the fuel tank where the two arms for the steering box area. Is there supposed to be panels here (Noticed 4 tabs for 4 fixings on each side) I have looked at a lot of pictures online and the majority don’t have them.

If so is anyone selling 😄

I’d like to put a battery isolator is there a typical location for one used?

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Those plates (E22-LA-9 and E23-LA-9) are available new, don't know if they're any good as I'm slill hoping to find Davie's original ones. As for the battery isolator it depends on what you want exactly, but here's what Davie has (fitted a long long time ago, although we did replace the isolator itself a good 20 years ago!):
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Cheers again, I’ve ordered a pair so I’ll let you know what they are like. She looks like a fine original example of a Dexta :)

I take it we are not allowed to mention places we have ordered parts from?

That’s not a bad location at all. I’ll have to make a bracket to hold the isolator though (well the type I have)

Cheers,

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I don't think anyone has particularly avoided that, and with Major spindles for example it's quite valuable as errors still appear with them and it's well worth knowing that to avoid making the mistake and also force the suppliers to use Ford specs for all their parts (which is all we really need them to do in the first place).
Davie is indeed in great condition. Having the isolator there is great as you can operate it from the seat, very useful with dodgy batteries and all the more if you loose the key!
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