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mikeR
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posted May 11, 2004 14:46     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeR   Click Here to Email mikeR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not fordson I know but I hope you will forgive me . I have a backhoe but dont know what it is, I've tried the web, looked for manuals etc but found nothing - only two other people in exactly the same state.
Its based on a ford 3/4/5000 I believe and ithink they were known as 3550/4550 as appropriate. Lots of people get as far as "its a ?550" but nothing further I can't believe they are that rare as people sort of know what they are.
So how do I find out
- what model its based on
-where could i expect to find serial numbers etc
- any ideas where i can find out anything more.
Any input would be appreciated

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neilarmo
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posted May 19, 2004 22:11     Click Here to See the Profile for neilarmo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike, there is a ford backhoe loader on abay.co.uk at the moment, search for 'loader' and there is also a brochure for a 555 backhoe too, search '555' you'll find them.

Neil

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mikeR
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posted May 20, 2004 14:43     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeR   Click Here to Email mikeR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neil ,thanks for the tip butno good. Mines much more primitive than the stuff on ebay.Its a 5000 ???? with a serious beefy frame hung around it to carry front loader,backhoe etc. There is an extension to the normal tracctor to th front which houses a prop driven oil pump for thge hydrualics. to operate it you sit on a rear platform (cabs missing- taken off for shed work at sometime i suspect) which is party size. Over engineered was the name of the game.
Brians kindly sent me a tech spec document which confirms its probably a 4550 made in france he thinks.I'd love to know more about itbut I don't even know where to look for serial numbers etc. I bought t for use on my smalholding and its earned its keep. Its very slow compared to modern units but I love it - its just so ugly you have to like it , the Boss however loathes it despite its abilities to make gardening a new and enjoyable expeirience for me anyway. Ive tried explaining that because its old the controls aren't all they should be and the collateral damage caused is just unfortunate and that she should think of all that pruning I am saving her but will she listen.
I would recommend that everyone gets one, the time saved can be used for other things like fiddling with your Dexta, but I would warn you that doesn't seem to wash to well either

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donhwyo
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posted May 20, 2004 17:37     Click Here to See the Profile for donhwyo   Click Here to Email donhwyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a link to a sherman backhoe. They were common here in the states. There are a few other models as well. A picture of yours might help. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=828&item=3677780758&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Don

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mikeR
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posted May 21, 2004 13:18     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeR   Click Here to Email mikeR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks but its not one of those, I 'll try and get a picture or two for all to see

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Brian
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posted May 22, 2004 10:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike,

Are you sure its a Ford built unit? It could be a "Dinkum Digger" or even a "Hymac". Both these used Ford units and the "Dinkum" had legs pivioted as you describe.

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Brian

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mikeR
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posted May 25, 2004 14:34     Click Here to See the Profile for mikeR   Click Here to Email mikeR     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still havn't got round to the photo but heres some numbers

engine R/H side C5NN60/5
Top of gearbox C5NN 7222L
Top of rear below the seat 957E - 4033A (The A could be a 4)
Its definately a Ford its got the Fo Mo logo in various places and the instrument binnicle is of the 4000/5000 type

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Brian
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posted May 25, 2004 21:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike,

Numbers are part numbers but looks like your right about the "X" series. The numbers are on top of the clutch housing mounting pad behind the starter on the right (from the drivers seat). You should also find the engine number stamped on a machined area on either the right or left side of the engine down near the sump/block join and the engine date codes stamped on the right front mounting under the fuel pump.

You will find everything is stamped rather than cast and each individual part (gearbox etc.) has its own date code from which we can tell when it was built right down to the morning or evening shift at the factory.

Have you a three cylinder or four cylinder engine and has it a Minimec or a DPA pump?

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Brian

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David M
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posted June 02, 2004 23:55     Click Here to See the Profile for David M   Click Here to Email David M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds to us like you are describing a Ford 4550. This was a backhoe loader based on a 4000 skid unit (a 3550 was based on a 3000).
To confirm we need more information (a picture would be ideal)
1) Is the backhoe removable (typical of a 3550)?
2) Are there two seats - one facing forward, one backward?
3) Does the backhoe slide to the sides and, if so, are the clamps hydraulic or
bolts?

The model before a 4550 was a 4500 (or 13-6 as we knew them as they could
dig 13 foot 6 inches deep) and was also based on a 4000. It had a bench seat for
forward driving whereas a 4550 had a single seat.

We operated 2 13-6's and a 4550 in the early 1970's progressing to 550's, a
555, 655C, 675D and now a NH95 we also used 2 H44 tracked excavators.

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