posted March 21, 2007 21:46               

2703E is often confused with the 590E as they are both 5.4 litre.

Steve

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posted March 21, 2007 23:11               

regards Peter

posted March 22, 2007 01:36               

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Originally posted by W 8H:
Steve
Thats is some useful/interesting info.
Is it right to assume that the 27** series replaced the 590E and was the latter a 6cyl derivative of the Major engine. What was the Major referred to in the industrial form? 4D?
I have a 1970 4cyl Ford ind engine fitted to our old Weatherill shovel based on a '55 Major skid. The bell housing is almost identical to the old Major (it fitted!)
Did these various Ford engines have family names? (English counties?)

regards Peter

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You are correct and these "2000E" engines replaced the "500E" engines.

The original Laurie Maitland (sp) design that originated in the Fordson Major and Ford Thames ET6 trucks had a major upgrade in 1957 with the release of the Thames Trader FC trucks and the introduction of 6 cylinder versions. Some of the changes on the tractor engines actualy came about for truck use. For example, The Power Major tractor power upgrade came from the inclusion of the Petrol truck camshaft.

With the introduction of the D series trucks the engine design was modified. Initialy two sixes and one four cylinder engine, 240 CID 4, 330 CID six and 360 CID six. Later this linup changed to 250 CID 4, 365 CID six (actualy 360 CID, I dont know why it was called 365), 380 CID six and 360 Turbo six. These are all 2000E engines.

These 2000E deigns are derived from the original Lauri Maitland engine were named "Dorset" and shared same bore spacing and deck hight as the 500Es and the 330 CID shared con rods with the 500E engines. The major changes are the oil pump location and timing gear arangment, with the injector pumps located directly on the block. These engines then morphed into the "Dover" that was used in the Cargo trucks up until the end of UK Ford truck production when it became Iveco, around 1994.

What is liitle known is the Perol Major type engine survived in 4 and 6 cyl untill about 1972 for use in the "K" Series trucks. The Perol D Series trucks got the 240 and 300 CID Canadian six engine.

This is an extract from another post where I listed the original 500E Industrial engines.

"590E is the name they gave to the 330CID industrial engine. There where also 4cyl diesel and petrol as well as petrol sixes. They are the 589E 6P, 590E 6D, 591E 4P and 592E 4D. Each engine could be orderd as a tractor type low speed or a truck type high speed. The 590E truck type is 100hp for the mark 1 and 104hp for the Mk2.
Why 590E. Very odd because anything 500E series is a large truck (Thames Trader). The old system was:
100E small cars
300E large cars (Zodiac)
400E, Vans
500E Trucks
600E Busses
900E Tractors

What is 510E? The 510E is a 5 ton Thames Trader with a six cylinder diesel engine. All six cylinder diesel parts tend to be prefixed 510E, eg cylinder head. 508E is a 5 ton six cylinder petrol truck. All common six parts and petrol specific are prefixed 508E. Look on the engine block, its 508E.

4 cylinder parts tended to have the tractor prefix E1ADDN or E1ADN unless they where truck specific.

Other trucks in the range icluded the 540E 7.5 ton six cylinder diesel."

Steve

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