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LBennett
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posted July 10, 2002 16:24           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just bought 58 Dexta. Hadn't been started in over a year. started easily, but hydraulics don't work, when fluid level checked, found oil looking creamy and beige in color. What should I do? This is my first tractor.
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Brian
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posted July 11, 2002 10:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drain the oil and flush out the rear axle with a mixture of diesel and 30W oil. Put in about two gallons of this mixture and run the tractor around for a short distance. Drain and refil system with SAE 30 engine oil or any good quality engine oil.

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posted July 11, 2002 11:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Oscar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brian, you never cease to amaze me . Great tip!!

Just to be on the safe side, is doing this also a good idea when the oil in the gearbox has water in it?

Um, I dunno about you, Brian, but I'd definitely not try this with the engine oil....

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posted July 11, 2002 17:00     Click Here to See the Profile for WayneB   Click Here to Email WayneB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In all my research, Dexta models up to the Super Dexta shipped to the states used gear oil in the rear end and transmission, and the 62 later models use 30 wt fluid.

I tried 30 wt and the hydraulics were not near as strong and responsive with 30 wt as with GO-90. I have been told to use no lower than 50 wt in the older Dextas.

Brown is a usual color for old somewhat contaminated Gear Oil.

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1959 Dexta Diesel Live PTO
1981 Ford 1100 4X4 10 Sp, 3PH & PTO

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Brian
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posted July 11, 2002 17:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chaps,

The oil specifications changed in January 1959 when SAE 20/30 HD was reccomended for ALL Majors and Dextas back to 1952. This is detailed in the Ford issued service letters. This oil will make no difference to the operation of the hydraulics other than speed it up.

If the pump is worn then the hydraulics will not lift as well but this will occur with the heavier gear oils once they warm up.

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posted July 11, 2002 19:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chaps,
Sorry last message was short but I was on my way to get Ann from school.

Ford, like most other companies, published a workshop manual and tractor drivers hand book. However over the years specifications changed and rather than issue a new hand book/workshop manual, they issued supplements that updated the information.

My own Major handbook from 1952 has extra pages added in to correct information. These are just paper typed and stapled into the cover.

As well as the supplements, every dealership recieved things called "Service Letters". These detailed changes to oils, settings etc. but because Ford did not want the general operator to service the tractor, these changes were only published to a restricted few in the dealership and were supposed to be "secret".

This is why sometimes information given in the manual, IT manuals and even Ford's own manual differ. Unless you have access to the "secret" information you will not see the complete picture.

The later models were even more complicated. I have the workshop manuals, the sales manuals and most of the service letters issued for the 6X,6Y and 10 series tractors.

The service letters for this period fill nearly as many folders and this information was never published in the manuals and is not generally available to outside publishers.

This is also why I would never buy IT manuals for Ford Tractors. The information given is not always up to the specifications.

But then I am lucky. Most of my information was handed down in tablets of stone from the "Great God Henry"

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Brian

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