posted March 04, 2003 12:18              

The serial number are.

1. 957e53455
2. 957e251(4)08 i can not see if it is a 1 or4

how old are they and does any one know more about this tractors please write.

posted March 04, 2003 12:28               

Then go over to Oscars Dexta-Description of Models and you read:

"The 1958/1959 petrol Dexta, blue/orange, with vertical exhaust (see below for further details).
The 1960 restyle (F3.144 engine,diesel), blue/orange, with vertical exhaust; this Dexta had the headlights incorporated into the grille. Also, the side Fordson Dexta decals on the bonnet first appeared (before then, only the nose decal was used). All tractors came with vertical exhausts from now on. From April 1962 onwards, Simms Minimec fuel pumps were used."

Oscar-- I really like the new setup of your page. Very user friendly, and very organized. Which is why you have the #1 Fordson site.

Henrik--Oscar has the information you need on this site; enjoy.

Wayne

kan any one tell me about the kind og engine my dexta has. I mean it is a perkins but my friends says no.
The serial number are.

1. 957e53455
2. 957e251(4)08 i can not see if it is a 1 or4

how old are they and does any one know more about this tractors please write.

Henrik Denmark

posted March 04, 2003 16:33               

As Wayne says, all the relevant information you need for determining the age of your engine is on Oscar's site.

However, i think you will find that your tractor DOES have a Perkins engine. Perhaps a lot of people will disagree with me but here is what I have come up with so far. -

Firstly the castings were made by Fordson, which are stamped "Monocyl". These include the block the head and sump. Almost everything else was manufactured, and assembled by Perkins. The pistons are stamped Perkins, the liners are stamped perkins, ( Just why did they use a parallel liner and not a recessed one in the Super Dexta block anyway? ), the con-rods are stamped Perkins, the front timing gears are stamped Perkins, and to top it all off I had to go to Perkins to get a new engine kit for my Super Dexta!! Of course I did try to get my parts through my local New Holland dealer, but they told me the only thing they could supply me with for my engine was an oil and a fuel filter, cos Perkins stopped supplying them with engine parts 2 years ago!

So if you do need any engine parts for your Dexta, it would do no harm trying your local Perkins agent!

Regards, Jimmy

posted March 05, 2003 15:54               

For the serial number : check => http://fordson.freeweb.nl/serial.htm

About the outlet ! Sorry : I own a 1962 F3.144 sweety, serial number : 09B718483, with headlights incorporated in the grill but with horizontal (underswept) outlet .
This means that I have one of those exceptions I guess.

posted March 05, 2003 21:26               

Be thankful you have it underswept.

posted March 05, 2003 22:34               

I have already read what it says about the Dexta engine not being a Perkins, and I believe it also states that Perkins only made the "smaller" parts such as manifolds. So why then are the Pistons, liners, timing gears, Con-rods, and shells also stamped perkins?

It seems to me that the guts of the Dexta engine was manufactured and assembled by Perkins. If fordson manufactured the engine why cant you get your spares through your local Ford/ New holland dealer?

posted March 06, 2003 12:44               

Just a comment on the "Perkins" debate. Some parts were made by Perkins. All major castings were made by Ford.

I have stripped numerous Dexta engines and never seen the Perkins name on any parts or any of the spares fitted by my dealerships. However this is not to say that the names were removed from all parts. Part of the build agreement with Ford was that no part made by Perkins was to be marked as such.

The engine itself was developed as a joint venture and built to FORD specifications. This is why the oil pump and the injection pump were changed from the P3 144 specification from Perkins.

Be careful when using liners and pistons from other suppliers. The Dexta workshop manual (Ford NOT I and T) specify that the liners have to be BORED to the correct size after fitting. This is not the same as the Perkins specification. I have never used liners other than from Ford sources so cannot realy comment on other suppliers, however there are a number of problems regarding partial seizures after non Ford liners have been fitted and not bored.

Sometimes the variation Ford to Perkins is in the quality and type of steel used not only the shape of parts.

regards

posted March 07, 2003 09:00               

I am by no means an expert on Dexta engines, but there is still something that bothers me. I have a 1963 grey winged Super Dexta. Unfortunately when I bought the tractor it had a hairline crack in the block, so instead of getting it stiched, I decided to go to a breakers and get a new block, which I had to strip down myself.

This block was out of a 1962 orange wheeled Super, but both tractors had the same bore size. When I striped this engine down I found that the Con-rods and the pistons had the Perkins name stamped on them. At that point, I just assumed someone had done the engine up at one stage and replaced the original parts with perkins. Thae, however when i took the timing gears out, they were also stamped Perkins on the rear.

When I went to strip my old block down, i also found Perkins stamped conrods and timing gears. Could this be a coincidence, or were perkins breaking the agreement between themselves and Ford about not putting their names on any parts?

I have now replaced almost my whole engine with what I thought were "genuine" perkins parts, but after what you said, i am not so sure now. As i have mentioned before, my local New Holland dealer cannot supply me with any engine parts for my tractor, so it seems that there is no other option these days than to go down the perkins road.

The only change i did get done to my new block was to get recessed liners put in instead of the original type parallel liner. The recessed liner should not need bored, therefore reducing the risk of partial seizures ( I hope!! )

Thanks for the input chaps.