posted November 14, 2003 05:04               

This site is Great.

Regards to all,
Alberto.

posted April 21, 2004 15:02            

Given dexta roadless axles/transfer box are non existent, then that makes it considerably more difficult.

I would be interested to find out what Allgrip Traction actually use for there transmission system.

technically, it would be possible to make your own modified front axle from something else (ie. I think an early landrover front axle should be the correct width for example)the diff would be on the wrong side though, so you would then have to turn it upside down, + other nightmare DIY engineering conversion problems), and in fact, the centre diff coupling could be made from other items (for example a modern viscous unit from a modern 4x4 car), propshaft is not a problem either, as these can easily be made. though it would be the transfer box that would be something completly made from scratch, so i would be interested in this part as to how the design is done by Allgrip.

if anyone has got any photo's or details of the Allgrip traction conversion I would be interested to see their design.

The transfer box for the roadless super major was very basic, and the diff unit was in effect a thing with a big spring and lots of asbestos plates. The roadless axle is actually a cut down military axle. CV joints were a nightmare.. new ones were apparently over £600 each!!

I think if you want to find out more about roadless, then speak to David Pantry who specialises in Roadless, and has himself a roadless Super Dexta.

posted April 21, 2004 21:17            

They have an advert with a couple of pictures on www.tractorsdirect.org.uk . I think they are in Wales. You won't finish up with a tractor with a history but it will be less likely to get stuck !!

Neil

Roadless FSM 6cyl owner

posted November 08, 2004 02:13               

I found a Dexta Roadless, which is out of service (engine is not good and sheet metals are beyond repair), but it seem that the front axel and the transfer box may be OK. Of what I saw, it is only missing the prop. shaft. What would be a reasonable price for such rare beauty.
Alberto

posted November 12, 2004 20:51               

I've linked the picture from Stefans website: http://www.fordson-dexta.de

posted November 13, 2004 12:47            

Maybe if you buy it, and you did rebuild the parts to retrofit etc it would be interesting to have detailed photo's of the design etc etc. Another part that would be useful for details/measurements etc would be the modified pivot pin area for the axle.

posted November 14, 2004 11:10               

I found on this site some pictures of Allgrip conversions

posted January 21, 2005 14:40            

I thought his design of the transfer box was impressive, using the chain drive method idea from the modern landrover transfer box. the casing was welded from thick steel.

Although the transfer box looked very tidy, i did not like the arrangement of the front axle, it still looked as though it could have done with some development. Ie. it used an arranegment of parts of the old front axle pivot, then brackets downwards to the landrover axle. i would have though it better if a proper pivot mounting was welded to the axle directly, then to modify the front bracket to bolt to the sump. (ie like an origional roadless).

it also appears he does not use a limited slip diff arrangement of any sort (ie front/back), it seems directly coupled, with the standard landrover series freewheel hubs fitted.

Unfortunately the article did not mention costs, though from the look of it, the engineering of the transfer box looks quite expensive.

I suppose as with all replica/repro stuff, it always depends on the market, and how many people are actually going to buy results of many hours engineering design/labour.

posted January 21, 2005 18:54               

I read the article. It was a very nice article.

I personally don't like the idea to build such non original farm workshop items onto good original tractors. I don't like cartuning also.

When one will adapt his tractor to 4wd I think he can better take a 4wd axle from a shibaura or some russian tractor. These quite often have portal axles with the reduction in the wheel centre (Like the MF 65 rear wheel drive). That means more clearance under the front axle and it will look nicer with tractor wheel centres instead of car wheel centres.