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ssalg
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posted December 28, 2003 18:34     Click Here to See the Profile for ssalg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I jacked the rear wheels off the ground and tried to disengage the transmission but without success. I noticed that if I spin one wheel by hand the other wheel spins in the opposite direction. If I split the tractor to gain access to the transmission do I divide the joint forward of the gear shift levers or aft? Has anyone done this kind of job and provide any idea about what to expect? thanks.

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Brian
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posted December 28, 2003 18:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the symptoms you have posted I would say that you have the common Dexta problem of selectors.

You say that you cannot move the gear change levers and yet you can move the selectors. I would still be investigating the selectors.

When you say you can move the selectors, are you moving them their whole range of travel back and forward? Can you see gears or gear couplings moving? Has a selector fork broken or has the little screw that locates the selectors to the shaft dropped out?

If you have to split you will have to split at the clutch, front gearbox and gearbox/axle so I would make very sure the problem is not a jammed selector.

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Brian.

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ssalg
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posted December 29, 2003 16:20     Click Here to See the Profile for ssalg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brian, I guess I did not express myself well. I don't know what you mean by selectors. I can shift from low range to high but the gear lever will not budge.

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RICHARD
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posted December 31, 2003 12:42     Click Here to See the Profile for RICHARD   Click Here to Email RICHARD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ssalg,

Sounds like your problem is the same as mine, which I’m sure, is very common.

If you remove the gear lever cover, you will see the two ‘U’ shaped selectors below. The ball on the lower end of the gear lever moves each selector forwards and backwards and, when in neutral, moves between each selector. When the parts have worn, it is possible to move the ball out of engagement with a selector, whilst still in gear, and the whole system gets gammed.

You should be able to slide both selectors to the neutral, mid way, position and replace the cover, making sure that both gear levers engage correctly.

You can avoid the problem, in the future, by selecting the gears carefully.

Brian,

I plan to build up my gear lever ball with weld and dress it off. Do you think that’s a sensible fix?

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tony
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posted December 31, 2003 15:48     Click Here to See the Profile for tony   Click Here to Email tony     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
richard, check out wayne's repair
http://dexta.20m.com/photo5.html

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Brian
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posted December 31, 2003 18:16     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chaps,

I think that has sorted things very nicely. Richard, your description was great and Tony, your reminder of Wayne's repair data finished the answer off well.

Ssalg, I hope this sorts your problem. It is something that all Dexta owners and drivers learn to cope with. I have a Ferguson and a Nuffield that do the same thing occasionly and its a pain in the butt when it happens but is really no big deal to sort.

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Brian

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ssalg
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posted December 31, 2003 20:55     Click Here to See the Profile for ssalg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your suggestions but I think my problem is more serious. I have removed the shiftlevers and peered inside and have tried without success to move the selectors to their proper position. Apart from the hi/lo range lever which will move, the other selectors are jammed tight. I have put in clutches for manual shift automobiles but spliting the tractor and supporting the halves and then finding/repairing the trany is not going to be easy with the equipment I now possess. Anyway, the only thing I have heard from a professional is "if you got enough money, we can fix it." Thanks again for the replies.

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Brian
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posted January 02, 2004 18:17     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have studied the drawings etc. since your last post and cannot at the moment see anything that would give the problem you have.

I am at a total loss as to what is jamming your selectors leaving the tractor in two gears at once. Again it sounds like a broken selector more than anything else.

The other possibility is a broken or stuck interlock. These are plungers on the selector rails that should prevent the movement of the selectors when the tractor is in gear. They are fitted through a small hex. plug on the lefthand front side of the gearbox. If it is very cold with you and there has been condensation in the gearbox, these interlocks could be frozen.

It is not too bad to split the tractor down, we used to split at the rear axle with a jack and push the rear axle away on its wheels whilst balancing it with a lever in the top link or drawbar. This will enable you to get into the back of the box and see if the problem is in this area.

Keep us informed as this is an interesting problem.

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Brian

[This message has been edited by Brian (edited January 02, 2004).]

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donhwyo
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posted January 02, 2004 20:09     Click Here to See the Profile for donhwyo   Click Here to Email donhwyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sure sound like it is stuck. Have someone rock the tractor and push in the clutch at the same time. Try to move the selector while this is going on.

Good luck, Don

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Mark Burgess
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posted January 04, 2004 02:47           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Don,
Where you been? Have you froze solid up there in the big sky country? Take care.
Mark

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donhwyo
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posted January 04, 2004 08:34     Click Here to See the Profile for donhwyo   Click Here to Email donhwyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I haven't froze yet but I started the dexta up today and could not lift the backhoe off the ground. Will have to put some heat tape around the plumbing and warm it up. Went to start the plow truck and nothing. Darn battery died. I am going skiing tomorow and not going to touch anything mechanical.

Don

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