posted July 02, 2004 09:35            

I've searched the serial numbers of the two tractors, and found them.

The one in bad shape: C 932217

The one who has been painted: O 9A 313374M

I've searched the serial numbers on the site but i didn't find them.

Maybe Brian can help me?????

posted July 02, 2004 10:58               

These numbers are alwayd hard to read, so assuming you have read them correctly :

C 932217 will most probably be 09C 932217 Acc to the 09C it is dated as 1963 but the rest of the number is strange. So you have to give some casting codes to have it dated correctly.

O 9A 313374M looks suspicious as 09A is never used for the Super Dexta as it indicates a 1961 build. Most probably, this Super Dexta is fitted with a Clutch-housing from a standard dexta or maybe the entire rear has been changed (accident). M may indicate that there was a Modification done(my guess).
Can you give us the Engine Number and some casting codes ? If the engine is not 16xxxxx, you may have a Dexta with a Super Dexta nose mounted (The engine number can be found at the Left side just above the outlet-collector).

posted July 02, 2004 21:55            

Maybe you'll know more with this

posted July 03, 2004 08:45               

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Originally posted by Jos Cuypers:
"M may indicate that there was a Modification done(my guess)"

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//Johan.

posted July 03, 2004 18:41               

I would suspect that Jos has got it right. The 09C number would be December 1963 but the 09A was produced some four months before the Super Dexta was launched.

The light switches also indicate that the 09A is possibly not a Super Dexta as the switch fitted was, again, discontinued in December 1961 and from that date the two switches were used on both Dexta and Super Dexta according to my parts list.

I would suspect that the tractor is either a Dexta with a Super nose or a Super with a Dexta back end. The casting codes will help identify this and if it has a dif lock or not.

However, the "M" is interesting. It could be "Modified" or it could be like the "D" we discovered earlier, a country designation.

What is also possible is that it is a tractor that Ford used for publicity prior to the tractor launch. It seems that there were some Dexta tractors fitted with Super Dexta tin work for publicity photographs.

On YTMag some months ago, was a supposed Super Dexta with a vacuum governor.

Unfortunately the person concerned was not prepared to post details other than the "Dexta" serial number which put the tractor again in November 1961. But he got quite cross when people pointed out that it had Dexta numbers and that Super Dexta tractors were not built until April 1962, saying he had had the tractor from new and it had been sold by the Ford dealer as a Super Dexta and had the correct nose cone.

If Nicholas's tractor is indeed a "modified" one and it can be proved to be so, it will be quite a find.

regards

Brian

[This message has been edited by Brian (edited July 03, 2004).]

posted July 03, 2004 19:02            

But where can i find the casting codes??

posted July 04, 2004 12:38               

They are on the clutch housing above the clutch cross shaft, on the gearbox near the clutch pedal, on the rear axle just in front of the trumpet housing and on the top of the hydraulic lift near the seat.

They are cast into the metal not stamped and are letter/number/letter - C12D, or on later tractors - 3F20.

regards

posted July 06, 2004 13:15            

These i've found on the right side of the tractor.

regards

posted July 07, 2004 10:47               

957E numbers are casting part numbers not codes. See Gerry's post for some ideas.

posted July 10, 2004 14:40               

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Originally posted by nicholas:
I've found the engine number
It is: 37116140 O
Maybe you'll know more with this
Kind Regards

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That's it ? Doesn't it start with 15xx or 16xx ?
Brian,
correct me, but it looks like the engine has been changed and a Perkings Engine in it now!

Regards
Jos

posted July 13, 2004 13:56            

Could jos be right?
Normally, i think that it were all perkins engines in super dexta's.

posted July 15, 2004 06:54               

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Originally posted by nicholas:
"Normally, i think that it were all perkins engines in super dexta's."

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posted July 15, 2004 08:22               

That is not strictly true. Ford tested the P3.144 and it did not come up to their specifications. They specified several design changes before using it in their tractor. Fuel pump and oil pump to name but two. Perkins then made the engine to Fords specification.

regards

posted July 18, 2004 14:04               

It looks like both engines were replaced by or real Perkings Engines or maybe by engines from a Massey Ferguson (Sorry folks for this un-polite word)

posted July 18, 2004 17:51               

I think a bucket of warm water and some nice carbolic soap for mouth washing is required

posted July 19, 2004 10:24               

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Originally posted by Brian:
Jos

I think a bucket of warm water and some nice carbolic soap for mouth washing is required

Brian

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posted July 21, 2004 08:05               

quote:

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Originally posted by Brian:
"Ford tested the P3.144 and it did not come up to their specifications. They specified several design changes before using it in their tractor. Fuel pump and oil pump to name but two. Perkins then made the engine to Fords specification."

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Well...
Of course Ford set up some demands to buy the product. But after all it is a Perkins construction.
I have noticed that the 3-152 engines that Perkins delivered for the tractor: "Volvo BM 320" (year 1961-1964) did have an improved lubrication system for the camshaft, in comparison to the one for Dexta 3-144 engines.

Regards
Johan.