Ford 3000 Force manifold heater installation

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Dave Adams
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Ford 3000 Force manifold heater installation

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I have a force 3000 that is a pig to start, relying on ether.
I have purchased a heater - now screwed into the manifold. Ive also bought a 5 way ignition barrel / starter switch with keys. My intention was to plumb the diesel supply from the injector overflow hoses, but will a single wire to there starter switch be enough to heat up the glow plug then ignite the fuel ?
Anyone fitted this before?

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Re: Ford 3000 Force manifold heater installation

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A poor starting 3000 is unusual, points towards worn bores, rings, pistons etc. Have you done a compression test?
The set up you're installing is very similar to the fitting in a Massey35 with a P3 engine. If you have one locally to look at it will give an idea of wire gauge etc. Once fitted don't use ether, it could detonate in the manifold. Very messy.

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Re: Ford 3000 Force manifold heater installation

Post by shepp »

Hi

Is this a 3000 with an inline pump (and lift pump ) or one with a rotary pump?

Obviously the inline pump has the excess fuel button so a tractor that needs ether to start despite using the excess fuel device has other issues such as low compression due to wear. If it has a rotary pump then the 3000 with a rotary pump for some reason does not start as well as a 4000 which all have the rotary pump.

A single heavy wire from the heat/start switch will carry enough current for the thermostart.
However you will need a reservoir to supply the thermostart and this should be fitted in the return line from the injectors to the tank. I have found that the reservoir and pipework off a David Brown 90 series (1390/1490) and the mounting bracket fit the bill quite well. Look on EBay they are advertised now and then.
1946 E27N, 1952 Major Diesel, 1959 Power Major, 1962 Dexta, 1962 Super Dexta, 1963 Super Dexta NP, 1964 Super Major NP, 1965 Super Dexta 3000, 1966 Major 4000, 1967 3000 PF, 1994 5640,plus Basildon built NH.

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